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UC - Haji Peter Imran: CAFL Memories, Coaching Tales & Bahamian Sports Spirit
An engaging discussion with Peter Imran highlights the integral role of sports in shaping identity and community in the Bahamas. Through shared experiences and anecdotes, the episode delves into mentorship, the significance of camaraderie, and a call for the revival of local football institutions.
• Peter's personal sports journey and challenges
• The essence of teamwork and community in sports
• Discussing the decline of the CAFL and its impact
• Insights into coaching young athletes and building character
• The importance of reviving football opportunities for future generations
Welcome to Under Center. We are your hosts. I'm Matrix.
Speaker 2:And I am the French Izzy. Today we have everybody known as Haji Peter Imran himself. Welcome to Under Center Podcast. The great, the great, the great. Under Center Podcast Also shout out to the producer 88 Season, great work. Love what you're doing so. Peter give us a brief history of your sports career, man.
Speaker 3:Well, career implies I was paid at some point. I was never paid, you was paid in signs light. I was paid with really good memories, really good memories. When I went to university I didn't have. I was one of the poorest kids on campus so I wasn't invited to a lot of things to do.
Speaker 3:so I said, well, I had nothing to do, so I'll go play sports, so I played tennis and I played rugby and I played um. I was on the rowing team and you know different things and what's the last one you said?
Speaker 1:You said tennis, rugby and what else.
Speaker 3:Tennis, rugby, rowing oh rowing, rowing up and down the river.
Speaker 2:Oh okay. Who's a dude that dances like this? It?
Speaker 3:was fun. You know it was fun and you once again in the sporting level both you guys are great sportsmen.
Speaker 1:So you know what it's like when you get into it.
Speaker 3:You just you get used to getting up and going to practice and you know and you got nothing to do. You know and you just feel like you got nothing going on in life. You need something, a sport to play. Keep it busy going. Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1:And I remember talking to Jamal Baker, the Jets. You know, one of the great, great players in Jets history.
Speaker 3:He admitted to me that I think it's long enough. Now I can say this that he one of the reasons he kept playing football as long as he did is because if he didn't, his wife would give him stuff to do on weekends. Wow.
Speaker 2:It's a great way to get out, so I made you want to retire.
Speaker 3:That's right. I got to go. I got to get him. I can't do that. I got to go, so now that he's retired, she's got to build a whole house now.
Speaker 1:Show him the truth. That's a progress in life.
Speaker 2:He should retire. That's the case I understand.
Speaker 1:I mean, you spoke about all that, but you didn't speak about your career over here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, locally, oh yes, this is probably the best part.
Speaker 1:There's nothing like Bahamian athletes.
Speaker 3:And just getting off on the jokes and how they talk to you. So bad. But it's just love If we can talk to you. Really bad and you don't start to cry, then we can trust you.
Speaker 2:We can't do it on our own, but he's been described for sitting with him.
Speaker 3:That's why I keep doing older guys.
Speaker 1:I said it was good.
Speaker 3:Torrey Curtis. He went away to Hollins College to play safety.
Speaker 1:He played linebacker on safety.
Speaker 3:He played safety for us. Maybe he played linebacker or safety.
Speaker 1:He played safety for us. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, with Jax, maybe he played linebacker and then he came down to linebacker before he ran off to school or something. So he played a little bit of linebacker.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay, he got the taste of him in there and he said wait, hey, he says he's doing great, he's coaching over there too. Oh, wow, okay. Well, he said his first time over there he was talking to his teammates bad and everything to get them ready for the game. He said he started crying and he said oh sorry, I didn't know, I didn't know.
Speaker 3:Wow, I was playing flag for the in the league for I forget the name of the team. Now in the league for the, I forget the name of the team. Now, it was one year. It wasn't, it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't it wasn't Okay.
Speaker 3:How's the amount of fun that'll be our next guest next week, so we'll send you your questions, right? I'm happy for him. You know his MBA's put to good use. So so, lunatics, the name of the team Lunatics, right, lunatics.
Speaker 1:We have the jerseys that only came down halfway.
Speaker 2:Oh, you all started, you all started. Yeah, I was like where's?
Speaker 3:the rest of my shirt.
Speaker 2:So you had abs or something.
Speaker 1:I didn't know if I had to put another shirt on. Y'all played in the female league.
Speaker 3:Y'all just said no, yeah, I think so. I think that's what it was Well we got me. Y'all boys played in sports bras, bro, it was bad, it was bad.
Speaker 2:Did you have a six pack at least?
Speaker 3:I had a keg. It was bad.
Speaker 1:Shout out to the keg. Anyway, that's okay for the lineman, bro, for the skill position players.
Speaker 3:It's terrible. So I'm hanging out at the practice and Tito the president, speaking of which Tito pulls up the president. The baba and he's like hey.
Speaker 1:We can charge you for that shout out.
Speaker 3:you know, tito we can challenge you for that. Shout out. You know, we can all look at that chat, check, check, check, check. Is it still G-Clue diplomats?
Speaker 1:You don't do much now, nah, nah, hey, we have an awesome producer. We can add that. You say something else. You know we have AI and all that.
Speaker 3:So you keep it up. You all have Alan Iverson working. Oh how would you date Originally A-high number three.
Speaker 2:So let's talk about Jesse and your NFL career.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, I was out there practicing for the Lunatics and then I was with Sal. Wow, I know it's wrong.
Speaker 1:Sal bro. Yeah, that's why you didn't know shit. Sal knows everything.
Speaker 3:Jesse Jets, Jets, Jets.
Speaker 2:It did it did.
Speaker 3:Tito was like hey, you want to come play quarterback for the Jets? I was like, who are the Jets? He said, just show up here next week, okay. So he showed up and that's right away. Mikko and Ovi Roberts and Tito and everybody else so yeah, I don't know why. That's what Saban got into real football. The people who really knew the game, people like the late Greg Filthy, shout out to Phil D yeah, yeah, great person. Fergie was there, heavy was there and Sonic.
Speaker 2:That's a real.
Speaker 3:BS Campbell. And probably the hardest loss of my life was the championship where we got cheated by the pros. Oh, wow, yeah, my first year I sat there and I watched this.
Speaker 1:What would you call cheating?
Speaker 3:Cheating is when Heavy's standing there. He's standing there on one leg, the pro has his arms around Heavy and Heavy's looking at the ref and says Mr Ref, mr Ref, mr Ref. The ref looks at him and looks away. That was.
Speaker 1:Russell Cole. I think that was George.
Speaker 3:Was it George?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:He passed away Rest in peace.
Speaker 2:Rest in peace.
Speaker 3:Cheating's run. The pro receivers runs a post corner and he runs. You know the tree at the EWN. You get the sideline, you get the tree, you get the bleachers right. He catches the ball past the tree and George does this. So the tree is on the field together. The tree is on the field. In the field that's cheating. And you, just, you, just watch, you know, just, you know Foster goes through and out but suddenly, miraculously we get holding and on the defense and then they get a first down and it was tough, I didn't realize so how long did you play in the CAFL, cafl five years, five years, I'm like he played longer than that.
Speaker 3:Seven, maybe seven.
Speaker 1:I know, because I didn't meet you there.
Speaker 3:Miko says he played nine, and I met Miko there, so Miko played nine. Yeah, he said he played nine. Oh, yeah, so he played. I guess you already played four too For you. I I don't know who you are, but you know.
Speaker 1:Because the ones that we won, we won with um, with uh, phil Phil. So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Hey, hey. The one thing with the Jets. The Jets were always a very there was always a run, jokes left, right and center, and you know, it was always a cool, you know cool vibe and it was just fun, Just fun. He was there. We had Champ. Champ was there. Oh, clown Came out.
Speaker 1:He played.
Speaker 2:I made the Jets. Remember, I made the Jets. Ross the Punisher.
Speaker 3:You had to beat out Trico for center. Remember that you didn't start.
Speaker 2:Actually. I started left guard because I played left guard in college. Okay, okay.
Speaker 3:Come on, man. Then Trico retired, and then you took over.
Speaker 2:No, no, he actually played left guard, because Trigger never really gained a practice.
Speaker 1:I remember John Markner was teaching me how to snap the ball.
Speaker 3:I never snapped the ball. In college I played left guard and left tackle in college. You never snapped the ball in college.
Speaker 2:No, I never played. John Markner taught me how to snap the ball Really. John Markner, who's the teacher? He was senior but I thought he was a kid. He was a quarterback into a rhythm.
Speaker 3:So how do you teach him how to snap? Because he just teach me how to snap.
Speaker 2:He said what about this and he, like he, taught me, and I'm a quick learner, so I do it again you're a quick learner he picked it up.
Speaker 3:No, but he, he.
Speaker 2:That was a video he teach you how to snap, so we taught talking, so so that's why I learned sabri okay but I might know, okay. So what made you leave the line? I mean not sorry, the jets to go to stingrays, I am let's talk about that.
Speaker 3:I didn't know what the organization was doing. I talked to tito. I get one answer. Travis got another answer. I'm like like what are we? What are we doing? So I was like I can't do this, just like I'm coming to practice doing this, what are we doing? And then I left. I remember the Jets Played against the Jets. I remember $100 being on my head, you remember that game.
Speaker 2:Dude, this is good about you. You're good bro.
Speaker 3:You've got to leave the squad.
Speaker 1:Hey, I don't know nothing about that. I don't recall. I plead the fifth. I remember that game.
Speaker 3:I got down quick. I'm like, get down, Get down. I was like I'm not going to get any chances.
Speaker 1:How much did you?
Speaker 3:have to add in the game.
Speaker 1:Not a lot, okay, not a lot, not a lot I remember a Matrix game. And Matrix was. He's playing DB and the first time in my life, I heard about a no-fly zone outside of the U. They're marching in, they're quarterbacks. That's great, no surprise. That's great Credit to the late, great Filty.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. Filty, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3:Speaking of linebackers, he played linebacker his last season he said I ain't got no.
Speaker 2:You don't always talk with Filty, but you got to show doggy respect.
Speaker 1:I remember when we was losing, we started winning again he took a back seat, Since he's saying well, this is the biggest team.
Speaker 2:I've ever seen. I just want to ride their wave From that day. In Tito's barbershop upstairs on Madera Street, he had mercy Let me say that Always on the road he played against them on every level.
Speaker 1:A lot of knowledge.
Speaker 3:Well, there was one game and he was pushing Tito to go for, and he was pushing Tito to go for him, for Phil pushing Tito to go play cornerback.
Speaker 1:And Phil was like can you play? And Tito was like no, you got linebacker. He's like come on, I got linebacker.
Speaker 3:And then back back back and then Phil's like fine.
Speaker 1:I go play linebacker and I'm like you okay, he's like yeah, you're going to play linebacker you spoke about playing the CAFL. How do?
Speaker 2:you feel about I'm going to put this how do you feel about the CAFL like Printer's not existing anymore?
Speaker 3:it's tough, it's hard, it's hard. I just I never imagined that it would no longer exist. Yeah, you know, and I mean, flag is great and everything, but it's still Flag football.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's still his incontinence. It's not the same. No offense to the Flag.
Speaker 3:No offense to them because they be talking like if they're playing you guys, I mean you guys, when you play Flag, you don't know, you really don't know the funny thing is like we had a scrimmage tonight and the funniest thing is you know you.
Speaker 1:I ran for like 15 yards.
Speaker 2:The quarterback ran for 15 yards you put my flag on, I go out of bounds.
Speaker 3:He's like oh, you ain't getting nowhere Like bro.
Speaker 1:I just ran the quarterback, ran 15 yards.
Speaker 3:I'm the first down. On third down, your defense is like where's your pride?
Speaker 1:We needed five yards on third down, I ran for 15.
Speaker 3:So now we first and we need 10. You're like but where's your pride as a defender? The quarterback ran for 15 yards. Where's your pride? You should be mad. That's what I'm saying. You turn around and be like we can elect and get another guard Bro thanks to you.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know, obviously you know how you go coming up. That fired me up Very next big touchdown. I mean, like bro, like I don't care, he makes a catch, I'm the greatest receiver in the history.
Speaker 3:Do you know?
Speaker 2:Garvin. He was like oh, he was a dirty flag player.
Speaker 1:Y'all should have seen me playing contact.
Speaker 2:I was so disgusting playing contact my hand bucking you in your chest and you weren't alone.
Speaker 3:Every lineman is here, fellas Wait bro, Everyone you know everyone did it. I remember the time I was in the pilot right. Christoph would shut up to win.
Speaker 2:He all just climbed with this. He's in the pilot and I dudes, don't talk to me, pause. Dude twisted my ankle.
Speaker 1:But the jersey?
Speaker 2:I see it wasn't mine but I gave it to by getting this one 12 rip shot, yep, but everyone know when you, when you're under the pod, you, you, you, you.
Speaker 1:If you don't have a visor on your, your helmet, yeah, you make sure, put your head, your face, in the ground because you ain't want to poke it all right like that's dirty. That's what it is.
Speaker 2:It's a strong bro I'm disgusting, but you're gonna hit it and fly um, let's not forget the late hits In the city of AFL.
Speaker 3:I didn't see one late hit call.
Speaker 2:Really, you get hit, you get hit.
Speaker 3:I remember Rocket getting smashed or Yellow Spear Rocket in his back after he was on the ground.
Speaker 1:Rocket, rocket.
Speaker 3:Rocket get up to fight. He got up to fight and Rocket got the flag on sports. He got thrown out the game, but Rocket knew the rules Like. I'm thrown out of the game but I have to leave the field. So he walked over to the pro sideline, cussed everybody out, told them about their mark.
Speaker 1:Well, I hope. I would hope, because that I don't think that's the rule. Once you get kicked out of the game, you got to get your.
Speaker 3:WL. Oh sorry, yes, you have to leave, but he's like, but he doesn't say when I have to leave, but he doesn't say when.
Speaker 2:Now there's a technicality this dude is a lawyer.
Speaker 3:He's like when? So he cussed all the pros out. So what they did? They ran to the gate. They didn't know if DW was on the way out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, rocket said he's going to leave the field when he's ready, and he will leave, and he, you know rocking that little moped, little motorbike.
Speaker 1:He was like he ran it, he cussed all the pros out there, but he's a liar right. You know why?
Speaker 3:right, yeah, yeah, I don't need to talk about it, I hope so, so anyway.
Speaker 2:so we're going to let it go. Hey died, I swear I made my peace with God.
Speaker 3:This is it. Because the pros locked the gate and when they locked the gate, rockets like so the super dips about well, you know, come on, open the gate. Why you got to be like that.
Speaker 3:The pros had like four linemen, I swear it was 250 pounds each. It was just and it was dark as tar. They really wasn't talking, so you didn't know what the next move was. So everyone ran to go help Rocket fight right. And I made the mistake because I ran, ran, ran. The stingrays of the stingray design. They stopped like where you are. I didn't stop where everyone is you were playing with the stingrays of the design.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I passed the last man and I went like two, three, four feet into where the pros were. At that point I can't go back because then he just looked like a coward. So I was stuck and I see him looking around. It's like 350 pounds, 320 pounds, 330 pounds.
Speaker 1:Just looking at me. I'm like, okay, I've had a good run it's been a good life and this is going to be it for me. I'm going to go out and swing it.
Speaker 3:I can die, but I can go out and swing it. Hold on, hold, on, hold on this dude thought he said guys though. I was like guys. I was like guys.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So my team ran and I said go do some real work.
Speaker 2:So, they stopped and I was like I went further.
Speaker 3:I was like when I go wherever I stop. Y'all can move up behind me. Or you thought they were going to go out of the market.
Speaker 1:No, no, I thought, if I come, up.
Speaker 3:Oh well, how'd you stop this far?
Speaker 2:You're supposed to be like. Y'all think it's a game. Eh, then step up.
Speaker 3:I was like y'all can step up to be in a line with me. Nobody stepped up. I was there by myself. I was like, oh, that's how, it is Okay, I see.
Speaker 2:You being such an OG in the CAF right I mean the box was ready to buy.
Speaker 3:Talking to most people, the box was ready to buy.
Speaker 1:That's about to expect. He thought this was right. That's what I was saying.
Speaker 2:Hey, you probably been in the league so long, right? I remember when we played together you were a mentor to a lot of young players and you even coached young players at UB. Speak on that, yeah, but you was a UB long. You was a groundskeeper or a chancellor?
Speaker 3:A lot of young men have seen the game, they knew anything about the game and just show up and just be throwing the ball back and forth with some of the students and they're like, hey, I want to play football, is it fun? They go on some basic routes and they realize that they really love the game, because the great thing about football is that, no matter who you are, there's a place in the game for you. You know, if you're like 5'2 and early in the broad, okay, great, you can play some fullback. You know, if you're 6'4 and really fast, you can play some receiver or something like that. There's a place for everybody. It's just a matter of showing them hey, you could play what if you're 4'4".
Speaker 2:And 380.
Speaker 1:380. Bro, you could be the basketball team. All I mean, no, you could be the ball team.
Speaker 3:You could be the greatest football team.
Speaker 1:Or you could just be Daniel, you could be CJ. Party cake, party cake, party cake.
Speaker 2:So how are you feeling this experience? How's your current coaching career?
Speaker 3:I think that Now we're getting on. I think that's Well, you all play, and I know that Well, you're still playing. You're also playing right, let's go keep talking. I think this is playing. I think that, matrix, you do coaching, you do coach, yes, and you coach. I like it, though. Okay, the thing about coaching is, I think none of us ever coach as a coach. We still coach as a player, okay, whether you retire or not, you're still in your mind you're still a player.
Speaker 3:I'm still a player. You're still a player, play right. So it's like and I have a lot more respect for coaches I see on television he used to play the game. I'm like, well, you know, you understand, you know, you know what it's like like sean payton. I'm like used to be a quarterback. I'm like you understand what's going on, guys who? I'm like, yeah, it's a little different. You know, you can't really relate. So I think the playing helps more than the mentoring, because I mentor from a player to a player. It's, in a way, all of us are mentoring people. You know whether you thought you were doing it or not. You know if someone had a bad play, hey, you know it's okay, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3:Next play, you know, let's go. I remember Fergie. He was a GM for R and he played wide receiver for the Jets my first year and I remember I was lost. I didn't know what was going on. I was just like, okay, I'm here, I know what to do. And he says to me Ajay, football is a game, Football is a job. Treat it like a job. That's probably the best advice I've ever had. So I showed up on time to go to work.
Speaker 1:You know I'm sitting here. You know he just said you know you'll be for how many years.
Speaker 3:He said 12. I heard 15. I heard 15.
Speaker 1:I heard 15.
Speaker 3:I said 15. I don't hear him disagree than 15. You're 15, I'm 15. I said 15. Oh, you said 15. I don't even have to disagree with that.
Speaker 1:You know, sitting here like I mean, you have such good memory, right, what would you do in school all the time?
Speaker 3:Try to graduate.
Speaker 1:Graduate that night. He's looking at you. He's looking at that booty, or what? I'm trying to graduate, they're nice, they're teaching them. He's looking at booty, or what Well, y'all mean you get in the Bahamas.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that's a decent life we need. I think you need some more peace. And right to the diet. Right now it's falling off a little bit, but hey, we got a fix for that.
Speaker 1:Now it's called Dr Miami it's not the same.
Speaker 3:It's not the same.
Speaker 2:It's going to be. Dr Banzai, you don't believe. This call B-A-N-Z-A-I-D-V, but it's not the same.
Speaker 1:Fix it after the sex work. But let's get to the meat we talked about last season. You were with part of the Hawks coaching staff.
Speaker 3:You know you was were with the part of the Hawks coaching staff.
Speaker 1:You know I was fired by a text yeah, so so I will tell our version and then you tell us you know the version that it is no no, no, this is it.
Speaker 3:I fired via text. I didn't know, because when they sent the WhatsApp message I didn't have data and I was traveling On the way to practice. So I arrived at practice, I was already fired, not knowing I was fired. No one said anything to me.
Speaker 2:That shit must have been really awkward it was, it was weird, it was weird.
Speaker 1:It was weird, so our version wasn't as funny as this version.
Speaker 3:This is the truth, they say. Fact is stranger than fiction it is. So I go through it all to everybody and this is what we're doing. I was the only coach there, I think Ryan was in the Lutra, and we go through everything. You know, you do your stretches and everything. We go through almost everything we're doing.
Speaker 2:I said okay, y'all do your stuff and I'm going to take care of your design. Even though they fired you, they still lied, right.
Speaker 3:They still had me coaching. I was fired and I see them looking at me like she wasn't sure what to say and I this is pretty simple stuff. I would have been like, hey, coach, come on, spot on, have you? Did you get the memo Per our loss, what's up? And I'm going to work with Billy and everything.
Speaker 3:And I had like a 20-minute session with Billy and you know, got her warmed up and got some tips and she's a very talented young lady and I said, okay, all right, go in. And you know, and Keisha wouldn't, didn't want to go play quarterback, so come play defense or whatever I said listen she looked at me and said it doesn't matter, you already got your quarterback working it doesn't matter what they do with you. Go ahead and play defense, and I'm going to lean back and hear your version, which I'm sure is.
Speaker 3:It is what it is sure is.
Speaker 2:We ain't got time, come on, you give us the battle words.
Speaker 1:So what did you think went wrong? When I say what did you think went wrong, I mean obviously they should have said why they fired you, or you should have an idea why they fired you.
Speaker 3:I know why they fired me. That's right, we had three games to go and we won one game. I think yeah so far, and it's like the bottom seat was guaranteed. And I mean, was two games, that two or three? So the last, maybe everyone is like super winning streak, we're still gonna get the last seat.
Speaker 1:So I said, great, it can't be super if only two games buddy, that's right. But I am sorry, yeah, it's hyper.
Speaker 3:It's a long way to touch it. I said I'll put that right, my son. So I said, well, let's start building right. Let's see what she got, because hey, if you lose two games it's not going to make a difference, and if we win two games, we can start her. If she wins two games, then she'd be the winningest quarterback on the roster and then she's earned the right to start in the playoffs.
Speaker 2:I see why they fire you, buddy.
Speaker 3:That's Keisha to him. So Keisha's like oh no, oh no, like oh no, oh no. She hasn't been in a lot of practice, but I'm like, well, hold on here, your buddy Fallon I think it's Fallon hasn't been in any practices and she started last game. What position? Well receiver. I think I might have the name wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 1:First time I heard it.
Speaker 3:yeah, I probably have the name wrong.
Speaker 3:But I'm like if you're going by practice. A lot of these players don't practice and you have them starting, so it doesn't matter to me who practices. I want to see what Billy can do. That's really what matters. That's what matters to me. I mean, I said I'm loyal to we should always be loyal. I said no, I'm loyal to winning. And if you're loyal to winning too, then you and I would have a disagreement. But if you're not loyal to winning, you're not loyal to winning, you're loyal to something else then you and I aren't going to get along Fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 1:So basically they fired you because you wanted to side Billy yeah.
Speaker 3:I felt Billy is the better player, his story getting funnier and funnier and she's, like you know, I'm like well, you see, whether you're a player or you're a co-player, you can't be both.
Speaker 2:Before we end your show, I got to make sure I always get up and down on my phone.
Speaker 3:bro, I can't do this you never know when you're going to have one text message you know what I'm about to say, Say one of the things that Vonda said that they worry about is Wi-Fi.
Speaker 1:You have Wi-Fi, do you need to go?
Speaker 2:I don't want fire again from the team.
Speaker 1:We heard that you're bringing out a new team. I could be fired.
Speaker 3:We heard that you.
Speaker 1:It's obvious that you're bringing out a new team.
Speaker 2:What's your team name, by the way?
Speaker 3:Stingrays, make sure to find something that's Canadian.
Speaker 1:Is it the Stingrays or Lady Stingrays? Stingrays, yeah, stingrays.
Speaker 3:That's correct. Trouble with the gyro is the sponsor, and we're very lucky to have Colmer as our sponsor he played football, by the way, Wait so so, so you think this was I'm the coach. Well, the coach was leaving the previous year, 2023, leaving the previous year 2023, he was leaving. Why was he leaving? And he was sick of them, he was sick of the Hawks and he was getting ready to go. Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1:Are you allowed to?
Speaker 3:tell the story on his behalf, or is? It.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, I thought you had a problem?
Speaker 3:I, yeah Shoot man, we heard it first. We don't want to get another text, we don't want to know. Is he like when you leave, you know and all that, he said, okay, I'll stick it out for one more year. And you know, he saw. He says you know, after you saw what happened with me, he's like this is wrong. You can't fire a coach mid-season. And he said what peter did wasn't wrong. He wanted to play to see what this player can do. It didn't impact anything as far as the standing goes. So why not see what this player can do? And he's like you cannot be a player and a coach and override the coaches when you don't like what the coaches have to say.
Speaker 2:I really want to know if they even got his opinion in firing you.
Speaker 3:No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Because if they give him the head coach and except, he didn't know.
Speaker 1:No, and he's the head coach, correct OC. And he was like you can't do that. So, when the season was over, he's like I'm done, I'm gone.
Speaker 3:They're like oh, let's talk about this, you should discuss it.
Speaker 1:He said what is there to?
Speaker 3:discuss. I've been talking to y'all and y'all refuse to listen for 10 weeks, so I'm out. There's nothing to talk about. So we got together and said well, let's put together a different kind of team where there are no player coaches. You're a player or you're a coach. You can't have it both ways.
Speaker 1:So hold on. The second time you used the term player coach. You're saying that they had player coaches on the team.
Speaker 3:Keisha is the player she's like, who's the fellow in Dallas with his name, jerry Jones, who's also playing quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1:So the reason why I ask that, because I mean so. I am, she's like she's the CEO president, I am a player on the Lions, but I'm also the president, but you're not a coach. But that's why. I say if you're saying player coach, because you.
Speaker 3:I mean. So I understand, but it's checks and balances.
Speaker 1:You can't be a player and a coach. That's too conflicting, right.
Speaker 2:So, I'm saying that's what I'm asking you.
Speaker 1:You're saying that she was a player coach, or she was a player and she was on the board. That's two different things. Also, she was a player coach, so she was a player coach and she was on the board, right? Oh wow.
Speaker 3:And if the coaches didn't? I believe that I've heard a rumor that their new coach, a fellow from the Predators last year, Brother Jake Lee. Yeah, what's his name? Make sure we are Jay. He left right. He left. What's his name? No, not him. The one they had last year, jay, not Jay. The coach who came in, who took care of this Right. Is he still?
Speaker 2:your coach now. He's still there now. I think I saw David out there with them. Yeah, we did Let now. Yeah, okay, I think I saw.
Speaker 1:David out there with them. Yeah, we did Okay.
Speaker 2:But when I say talking about Brother J, I kind of like the fact that he opened the offense up. I don't know if it was you or Keisha who was like, like you want someone like Kali but you've got to feed Kali.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I don't know. I'll say this much From what I saw.
Speaker 1:I mean he couldn't be on the sideline From what I saw, he was getting the ball and the best player. And that's what you do on offense, you've got to get your best player involved, whether it's jet sweep, whether it's your screen, whether it's over the top, whatever they have to get the. I agree, you know what I mean, so I mean.
Speaker 3:given that much, there's another side to that too. The other side to that is, if you force-feed one player, the defense focuses on that player.
Speaker 1:You have to be able to, so you know what happens there, right?
Speaker 3:Well, you have to be able to get the other. No, I'm saying, just keep the other players. It's like the Bulls with Jordan and Pippen. Pippen was enough of a threat where he just couldn't throw everything on Michael Jordan, so Pippen, being as good as he was, helped Jordan out. It's like Steph Curry and Clay Thompson.
Speaker 1:You can't just focus on one person. I'll say this I don't care how no one feel about it, I'm a Bulls fan. Pippen survived off Jordan, reason being that he's the number one. Whenever you have the number one, they demand a double team. They demand that attention. So, because they demand that attention, you just have to be an average player to look good. So if you force feed, like you say, you force feed your number one player that opens up the offense and then you take advantage of what's there Exactly.
Speaker 1:So that's why you go to your go-to player. You know what I? Mean, For example for as old as Kenny is, I can keep my ride out. When you run down the field you got to respect his speed.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure how old Kenny is. You don't respect his speed.
Speaker 1:You got to respect that. So, at the end of the day, you know what I mean If respect, yeah, but what I'm saying, you gotta respect that. So at the end of the day, if you don't respect that, that's Barry.
Speaker 3:Okay, the offense I designed the offense I designed for the Hawks is there is you have your one-on-one, you have your person. It's to get people like Carly your best players. Get them in one-on-one situations Right, and if you see somebody open, you go through your reach. See somebody open, get them the ball. Here's why, even if it's not Carly, get like Ashley the ball. Get Billy the ball.
Speaker 1:The other girl is an amazing receiver. You're not Billy. On defense, she didn't play offense.
Speaker 3:Billy was supposed to play offense. The girl that was there before Carly was there.
Speaker 1:Shelly right.
Speaker 3:Because then the defense was like well, we can't just sit here and get eaten alive, we got to adjust. So then that opens up, so the two of them feed off each other right. But when you're holding the ball for three, four, five seconds waiting for something, that's Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh last year, right.
Speaker 1:So it's like hey. I saw.
Speaker 3:Shelly running in the drag round. She was literally seven yards right in front of Keisha. She's right there.
Speaker 3:There's nobody from miles and Keisha holds the ball and four screens at the call and triple coverage on the left side. So I'm like, okay, you've got to clean that up. You cannot do that. And I'm like, okay, you've got to clean that up, you cannot do that. And I'm like, get the ball, get rid of the ball. Get the ball get rid of the ball. If it's like fourth and forever, yes, you hold the ball because you need the first time, I understand that. But if it's third and three, what are we waiting for Christmas? Get it out. And if you ain't gonna get it out, run, go one, two. I've seen you do it in a championship game. What happened? Matrix draw back.
Speaker 1:Okay, the line held it. No offense which championship game the one that just happened you ran the one you just won. You won, yeah, oh no, no, no, no, I did not run at all.
Speaker 3:No championship game you play, right. Okay, one must have been the game before this. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1:You ever have Chef Curry, you never have that.
Speaker 2:No, okay, chef Curry's way for a boy Chef.
Speaker 1:Chef Curry, the chef Chef.
Speaker 2:Curry. So, Chef Curry, yes, so. I was Chef Curry's waiting for the boys now Calling for the boys.
Speaker 1:Steph Curry, the chef, steph Curry, so Steph Curry. Yes, so I was Steph Curry. I was doing the cooking While they were stirring the pot. I never had to come out of the pocket.
Speaker 3:Was it, it must have been a game before then.
Speaker 1:You know, you know.
Speaker 3:There's a game where you ran a lot.
Speaker 1:If I ran a lot, that's what I wanted to do. Okay, if I run a lot, that's what I want to do. Okay, right, let's say this much the most I had to run in any season was last season. Shout out to Ron Any other season. If I took off, it's because I saw something that I could get paid.
Speaker 2:I needed to get something Right. So if you were third, well, you want to truck?
Speaker 3:somebody sure Right Like tonight. But if it's third and three you're not going to sit back there for five seconds, three yards. I'll run three yards, right, no Right.
Speaker 1:So I mean we even practice.
Speaker 3:I mean one, two, three for him. That that's what he's doing to Carly, but my thing was pretty much the same Get the ball. If you're open, throw them the ball, throw them the ball. Something else I learned playing for the Jets. You played this year for the Jets. If you don't get receivers involved early, they mentally check out.
Speaker 1:Maybe Kenny can relate to that right.
Speaker 3:If I go through the entire half and you don't throw the ball to me.
Speaker 1:I got news buddy, come the second half, the first ball better be in my way. No, that's weak, that's weak, that's weak. Why I said this? Because at the end of the day, I mean sometimes, like you could go a whole game and nothing comes to you, you might have to get your last one to save the game. Because at the end of the day, I mean, if you were number one, you have to work harder than everybody else.
Speaker 2:You get all the attention, you get the best receiver. You get the safety over the top, you know you probably might have someone trying to jump you, so at the end of the day, you just have to work harder than others.
Speaker 1:But whenever the ball comes your way, you got to be ready for it.
Speaker 2:But you know what Just thinking about how you're talking about number one receivers is get like if they were goddess. It's so different in the trenches, like when you use the best O-linemen, they just give you the scrubs, the dudes who they know, just for you to be yeah just for you to be, you know what I mean, I mean, I mean.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know obviously what we were doing is we were putting our strongest players on their strongest players. Okay, so now it's a 50-50 chance whilst winning the game Like, okay, cool, what are we going to do? We can take the short games with our best players against your weakest players. Take the short games. Need a 50-50 for the the other players because there's a point system.
Speaker 1:yeah, so at the end of the day, if I beat you by, 20 points, then I don't do it so if I beat, if I beat, if I beat your weakest player by, let's say, let's say, 10-1. So I beat him by 9 points and you cannot be my weakest player 10-1, we win the battle. So it's the same thing. Like you say in the trenches. I mean, why put the best team linemen?
Speaker 2:Okay, that's like with receivers, they notice now why we see when they bring them into the slot to try and get a mismatch or a linebacker or a safety or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1:One of the days model is model what Belichick did, and Belichick's the one who started this.
Speaker 3:He wouldn't put his best corner on the best receiver.
Speaker 1:He put his best corner on the second best receiver, and then the other side.
Speaker 3:He just went zone and it works great. Like he put, talib would go on the second best receiver and then the other side as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I mean. That's only the offense. I would run something like this.
Speaker 3:I just say here's a running back. You know fake handoff, but depending on what you see you guys have done it.
Speaker 1:No, no, no.
Speaker 3:The offense I had. They're Hawks running.
Speaker 1:Oh, let's say Columbia is a running back, the ball is snapped.
Speaker 3:Well, you see what's going on. If you're going this way, well, count your numbers. If you got two people on the side blocking and only one person, you had the ball off and come over and go this way. If not, you fake the handoff.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:And you got a quick slam on the side back and the ball's out very quickly.
Speaker 2:If that's not there, then you cut back that particular offense. You think the issue was how can I put this? Do you think Keisha's skills, like her physical attributes, match your play calling that's? The next thing too.
Speaker 1:Because I think it's not any different. She's more of a pocket quarterback.
Speaker 2:Yeah, who can get you a five yards? But I'm not ask you to run.
Speaker 3:It's handoff. It's not our field.
Speaker 2:It's an.
Speaker 3:Atlantic, though Doing this is an Atlantic Step on the ball. Fake handoff look balls out.
Speaker 1:Did you tell her she has to watch for it to pull the ball about to hit the slot? Yes, okay, cool, so let's move on, buddy.
Speaker 3:So you know, that's what made it so painful for me, because I'm like, I'm literally telling you every single thing. I see the pain in your eyes, you know, yeah, we got more here. Kenny's, like I understand, so I mean okay.
Speaker 1:So with your new team, is it new players? Did you steal some players? Or you know you just recruited outside the league, like how is the recruitment going?
Speaker 3:On my Instagrams. I wish I could recruit from outside the league.
Speaker 2:Your Instagram.
Speaker 3:On my Instagrams.
Speaker 2:I've seen the girls playing Mexico. I wish I could recruit some of them because they're amazing.
Speaker 3:But no, we recruited from players who never played the game before, players from the team that just broke up, phoenix Fire, some of those oh, yeah, some of those girls.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when you say some of those, girls, come on.
Speaker 1:Do you get a share? Any that's give me two names, so who you think? That's all I'm most valuable to your team. Biggie is a receiver. She's phenomenal and I'm just into the center and we tell I don't care what Big E as a receiver. Big.
Speaker 2:E.
Speaker 1:That's a nickname. That's a nickname, but I don't care what any. She's a Titan or a receiver, receiver, I don't care what. You sure she's a lineman or she's a receiver, I don't.
Speaker 3:Big.
Speaker 1:E, as in big big plays, your guy gets called a receiver. Biggie bro, Her ego is. Y'all gave her a name but she gave herself a name.
Speaker 2:She gave herself the name.
Speaker 3:Now, I was concerned.
Speaker 2:What number she wore last year.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I don't understand One catch for negative three yards why?
Speaker 2:are you such a hater?
Speaker 3:Big E.
Speaker 2:You better be a model.
Speaker 3:Your name, you say Big.
Speaker 1:E no Biggie. Your name, your name, you say Biggie no Biggie, biggie, as in Biggie no Biggie.
Speaker 3:No Big E Because her name is. Oh, Her name is. I was like trying to figure out why he said Biggie. Oh no, Not Biggie's fault.
Speaker 1:Yeah, big E. Oh, because that's why she said I your name was. You went to the face of the franchise. What's the E for what? Do you want Anything in the NFL? I've always wanted it. The E is out. I gave it a warm up. The E is for her name, or big E, as in what Big? What E is for Elise is her name. Oh, okay, ezekiel, okay, ezekiel.
Speaker 3:This one's gonna have Ezekiel. What's your name? What's your name Tony? Hey, tony, I learned just the things you learned, right? I learned recently how important having a center is and also how hard it is to develop a center. I've never had that problem. That's hard and I was faced with having to do that. And it's hard, really, really hard, to develop a center because you could get three great snaps in a row oh, we're good here, we're done. Throw you back, it's over your head Out, you are.
Speaker 3:So, here, we go Back to you. So you're like, oh, I want to.
Speaker 1:Avengers Right, you're going to Avengers, you're going back home, but I already break up the Avengers.
Speaker 2:Oh boy, I'm sure this dude will close it. He got like every BFFL team and he's just in the mantle, but like he's going to sleep. I like the pros. I mean the pros.
Speaker 1:He's been rushing all that. He's here With Jeremy. He gets rolling and rolling. That's crazy, but he made up with you, everyone in your eye is going, I can go with you.
Speaker 3:Next the Rebels. He's like the Jimmy Butler of the league, so Never mind, not Jimmy.
Speaker 1:He's got those four jerseys.
Speaker 2:He's a.
Speaker 3:Ryan Fitzpatrick of the league.
Speaker 2:That's better. Yeah, or the Warren, warren, but Warren Fitzpatrick was actually involved. People hate on Ryan, but Ryan used to give them buckets.
Speaker 3:Ryan Fitzpatrick was James anyways.
Speaker 3:So um, that was the original touch the reception machine, but we didn't have a center, a true, center and when we got Jessica from the Phoenix fire it just cause I'm like, well, we got to run the pistol because you know, if you're not getting good velocity on the snap, the ball just hangs. It ends up as a pass which gets to the quarterback at the same time as the snap. No, we know about that, you guys know about that. So now we got a center who puts up velocity on the ball. We knew about that when Conor left me out there.
Speaker 1:I leave you with.
Speaker 2:Kenny, I leave you with. Ozzie, I leave. You were Aussie, I knew you were loose, so now we have a center with velocity.
Speaker 3:We've got a fastball, so now we can go with a shotgun, because now the ball is getting like that and then the quarterbacks have to adjust, because they were like, you know, they were just getting these, the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You actually have more than one quarterback Developing. Yeah, we got Trica, who came from the Hawks, right, very, very athletic, she's a run, she's fast, so why not Billy?
Speaker 1:If you was developing.
Speaker 3:Billy went back to. Billy was practicing with the Hawks for NFL flag. A coach just saw her practicing with the Hawks and then, I think, billy's back with the Wildcats. That's what I heard.
Speaker 1:You got to think that. I tell you that's my friend. Okay, well, I'm happy Billy's back with Wildcats. That's what I heard.
Speaker 2:You gotta think that I tell you that's my friend. Okay, that's my staff in Guatemala. There you go. So who else left and followed you and Ryan over there from the Hawks? Nobody, nobody else.
Speaker 3:And, honestly, we really didn't want it.
Speaker 1:Well, we didn't really Ron and I, we made a case of it.
Speaker 3:I said I don't know who I want from the Hawks.
Speaker 2:I said because they think I'm on.
Speaker 1:No, no, here's the reason why this one sounds like something that Matrix used to say when we played. Don't quote me no more, man. See what you got to say first.
Speaker 2:Here's the story.
Speaker 3:Matrix. I can tell the story. Matrix was a sunburner and I don't know what game it was and which team they were playing against, but apparently it was a screen pass, a quick pass to the right side, matrix only receiving the right side, and the quarterback invoked the huddle. The quarterback did this at the line Point right to Matrix.
Speaker 3:So the safety was like well, thank you very much. And just slides right over and lies Matrix right up and the quarterback's, mad at his worry, threw the ball right to Matrix Matrix, like you know he ain't going to punk out, so he caught the ball, got lit up, lit up the fireworks coming out of Hold on. Matrix came back, matrix came back Matrix out.
Speaker 1:Matrix says, matrix says the quarterback says we're going to win the same play, good catch.
Speaker 3:The Patriots said no, no, the only reason he's out here is pride, my boy.
Speaker 2:You want to play it on six summers? No, no, no. The Patriots said the importance of pride.
Speaker 3:It's a pride thing, right.
Speaker 1:He's right around the same tree, the.
Speaker 3:Patriots say no, you say matrix. So matrix say oh no, no, no way happening. Who's the quarterback, so the quarterback say it's going to, it's going to miss sunday.
Speaker 1:It was oh wow, sun versus rothbro like I mean I glad I started with them because obviously you know I went through some pain before you get a well-organized team in the Jets.
Speaker 3:The quarterback said are you hurt?
Speaker 1:Matrix said no, no, no, but about to be he said, only reason I was hurt was because of Brian I was saying how am. I going to get hurt. I was saying I'm going to Ball stop. What did you say? Ball stop? Ain't no one touch him, Get him.
Speaker 3:No one touch him and Jeff's like get off my leg. Y'all got to fix this field big and he walked off and he said it was pride and the thing with the Hawks. I was like I don't know if I want you guys, because I watched Keisha talk to y'all so bad, so bad, and not a single who's gonna do my story. So I'm saying pride, I need pride, I need pride. So you got pride. You just wanted to embarrass me. No, no, yeah, I get knocked out. No, no, no, you know you was. You said you was eating cheese. I didn't say that. So, so, so that's a pride. I respect you because you was like no, bro.
Speaker 1:I said you want to tell you remember when we played for the Jets and it was time to be, and the goal hit you at the same time and we came back to the hotel and all of a sudden I was bleeding.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do. I do Because mom told me to get out of the game. I didn't know it was me telling her to get out of the game. I came to the sideline. What you was seeing?
Speaker 2:He was seeing.
Speaker 3:I'm fine.
Speaker 1:I didn't see no-transcript.
Speaker 3:It was me, me, you and Travis. Yeah, that's when Mel was there.
Speaker 2:You know what I?
Speaker 3:mean. So you know, first year I didn't know which one, so I'm there.
Speaker 2:No, I think you played because Travis was on his deal of shit. I'm not playing, that's bled.
Speaker 3:But Travis still played that year.
Speaker 2:Travis is a bled every season.
Speaker 3:So I was like, okay, well, I'm bleeding, travis is going to go in for me. You know what, travis? You good? Yeah, all right, get back in the game. I was like, all right, let me just go back in the game then, since obviously you're not, you know, going to go in. But, I'm like you can't let someone say or talk to you about every single game you're doing.
Speaker 2:You abandoned me Because to hurt you, I would take people from you.
Speaker 3:That's just me, I took the sponsor, I took the coach. So you got no sponsor, I took your head coach. I'm done. Goodbye, good luck to y'all, so you're learning from Matrix, aren't you?
Speaker 1:I be Right so you learn from a to do it. I'm the matrix. They do it on the bank, from the files. So, I'm, you, I'm. We shot your necks? No, but I was. I think maybe we should be interviewing matrix.
Speaker 3:They's off a sponsor. Now I just want to say something. It's very nice. We got Tito, the president of the flag league, and we have Jason Clark, who's also a Jet, the president of the youth league. It's nice to see the Jets running things in the box?
Speaker 2:what about the? What about that flag bomber? Who running that? I don't, I don't count, that is Eddie running that is Eddie running that well great, I don't count.
Speaker 3:Is Eddie running that? Is Eddie running that? Well great, we got three. We're three for three. Speaking of Eddie, did you ask him?
Speaker 1:to be a guest. I did, I did and he said no, so let's move on.
Speaker 2:Oh, I got to. You all know what Game of Thrones Shame.
Speaker 3:Shame, shame. I got to say something because one of our coaches is from Bimini. He's a coach role.
Speaker 1:He's a prayer coach, he's from Bimini or he lives in.
Speaker 3:Bimini. He's from Bimini, he lives in that. He lives in.
Speaker 1:Nassau, what do?
Speaker 2:you know about football. He's a dolphin finding.
Speaker 3:And we were in practice and he said something a couple of nights ago and I got very upset. He dared to say you know, you guys are boys and nothing but football. You know, freeport stopped this. Oh and I became very angry Because I'm like, really, when's the last time y'all beat us in a game, at any level? At any level, y'all is garbage, y'all is trash.
Speaker 1:So let me ask you this question, like I mean before I allowed him to ask one. I mean, they've been asking one, but what's? Your expectation for the season, because you're saying you have, you know, basically a new team, new team. Yeah, you know what? All the females, because I can tell you the Wildcats are going to be coming to March.
Speaker 3:That's what Jay told me today when I saw it. We didn't worry about them.
Speaker 2:But RG, I ain't got faith in you, boy. Bro, listen, rg, I ain't got faith in you, boy. Y'all will win my half a game, but that's all. It was Half a game.
Speaker 3:So what? We're going to leave for a half and then we're going to get blown out for the second half, or we can leave the second half, Let about.
Speaker 1:So I mean. I'd say this much what's your? Expectation for the season.
Speaker 3:Something I learned from Bill Belichick is, if you're pretty sure you're going to make a playoffs anyway, treat your regular seasons preseason to develop your players. Remember, afc East was weak. The Patriots won all their games. It was easy to walk into the playoffs, right. So I learned from that. I said, yeah, we're pretty much guaranteed to make the playoffs, let's spend the time developing our players. When we get to the playoffs, our players are peaking and then we see what happens.
Speaker 1:Once we make the playoffs anything can happen, so in other words, you're just you know having expectations.
Speaker 3:See let me tell you something Just to win the next game. Whatever the next game is, just try to win that game. And then this would go there.
Speaker 1:Don't mind how much you beat Brian and Bush, I still just remember what. I asked.
Speaker 3:I still remember the expectations yes, to win more games than we lose.
Speaker 1:Fair enough, I can't win a game against Keith Shimmer.
Speaker 2:I know, keith Shimmer. Come on, nigga, try to beat Chubby Bro. That'll be the hardest to get down. Keisha, baby Keisha. I think that's the only game I'm rooting against. That's the only. That's the only games I'm rooting against, because I got you. She's a treasure. She's a graphic designer. Well, she is a graphic designer oh, so you would.
Speaker 3:You would root against me.
Speaker 2:You're Jeff's brother you know Keisha, keisha's my dog, but I mean what would it be? What would it be? What would it be with this? It would be a good game. We'd be keeping the stats. We'd be keeping the stats, we'd be up in the booth, We'd be keeping the stats right, I mean.
Speaker 3:So I'll be sure to have someone else keep the stats.
Speaker 1:I think you need to answer that question because I mean he should have 500 yards and six touchdowns, they'd be like, but he only put up seven points.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying his stats. He'd be like he's just going for 500 yards and seven touchdowns, I'm like, but he only scored six points.
Speaker 3:So I'm like, I'm like, if you you're mapping, you're mapping buddy, but okay, I'll trust you until I see stats, which are a bit questionable.
Speaker 2:you coaching at UB mentoring young officers and many young players on the.
Speaker 1:Jets, a couple of officers is the only thing he's good at.
Speaker 2:You also coach at BYFF at that level. How is that? How is your coaching skills? Also, how is that? Health and skills oh, how is that?
Speaker 1:health and your coaching skills, those guys and if so, what way is that?
Speaker 2:How's it help? I was in health dealing with kids. I know you don't be dealing with the 6 to 10, I think you don't be dealing with it.
Speaker 3:I think both of you coached in the world.
Speaker 1:I know we ref.
Speaker 3:I coached.
Speaker 1:I coached. I ref Made a championship game. You never coached, I never coached.
Speaker 2:I need that time to take my team to get ahead. I can be real.
Speaker 1:You never coached.
Speaker 2:I think he'd be real he said he'd go like 6-10.
Speaker 1:That takes a lot of skill. I admire especially those like Dawkins. Bro, he's awesome with the games oh.
Speaker 3:God, yes, he loves it, I think he loves it. Mr Gibson, Mr Gibson.
Speaker 2:He's just so fantastic.
Speaker 3:You know I'm like you. You know you're just. You're just perfect for this from my point of view. Awesome character.
Speaker 1:I can be real, like buddy, like that. All of them are, all of them, they are, they are, they are they are great but I mean, how do you I mean you can answer this question after this. Answer this quick, please. How do you and the lady who fired you coexist? We don't see. Now you've got to answer my boy question.
Speaker 2:Well, she called me. She fired him on his way to practice and he's still having bleeding and stretches. I'm sure she saw one day.
Speaker 1:That's why I respect her. I respect her. But anyway, since you want to give free service, why?
Speaker 3:did they do it? No, no, I don't know that story right. I also took their ball. I said I'm going to hang on to this ball for the next practice, in case I come here early. I don't want to work with Billy. Oh, no problem, you can take it. I said I'd sell all black balls. I'll sell the ball to this day. I'm not going to give it back either. I have it. You admit that you stole the ball.
Speaker 3:She gave it to me she said I could keep it for the next time I come to Hawks practice, while there was no next time. So I'm not in violation of the contract.
Speaker 1:I'm not in violation of the contract.
Speaker 2:Well, now you took a page out of the rock and roll.
Speaker 1:Exactly. I mean I'll ask the opposite question again. So we got. I'll just quickly nod.
Speaker 2:You coached your BYU NFL. How does that help your skills and your soulful weight? Dealing with the young kids, I know what patience is for sure, bruh.
Speaker 3:You learned that it's much easier coaching six and nine kids.
Speaker 1:It is yeah. You know why?
Speaker 3:Because anything you tell them to do, they do Anything you want to do. Go run three laps, okay, you're gone. Reggie from the Jets. His daughter, blair Blair, came. I saw her backpack Her backpack had Reggie with the lions, with the lions. She had lions. She comes with four bottles of Gatorade like six packs of cookies, ten chips no exaggeration. Reggie Sutton is cool.
Speaker 1:She's like Reggie. Reggie Sutton is cool If the zombie apocalypse hits.
Speaker 3:I'm going to hang with her Because she's ready to rock. Buddy, she's got supplies. I remember we had a championship game for the BOI FML two years ago. She was I'm looking at her. She's like I'm looking at her. I'm like how much Gatorade. You had Two. I'm like you ate all the Gatorade. She goes no, I didn't, I have more. She had like three more in the bag. So I was like, hey, we got to get them on the field.
Speaker 1:So I was like I mean, I, we made a joke about it, but I understand.
Speaker 3:It's wonderful. The older, the older, the older the people get, it's, the more back talk it's, the more I didn't tell you it's the more. Yeah, I know this for me, you know, and it takes a little bit of love away. It was a fun away, whereas little kids, I didn't get a 6-9 this last year and I was like, hey, I'll trade you, I'll trade you by 10-12 for the 6-9.
Speaker 3:I coached 10-12 and 13-17. But one of the 6-9 coaches assistant coaches was busy doing stuff and so I ended up coaching assistant coaches 6-9. It happened to be my daughter's team, so you know it was cool. I kept trying to put her in the game. Did she get more stops than you? Of course she won a championship her first year. I never pulled that off in any sport Because you were in the same race.
Speaker 2:You were staying with the Jets.
Speaker 3:No, you didn't win that one year, man we came back in here ever won my first year playing a sport. It's her first year playing football.
Speaker 2:Didn't she play last season? She lost last season in the championship game. This is not her first time. You're saying she won her first year. Her first year, she won a championship in her age group Six to nine.
Speaker 3:The second year, which was last year she got to the championship and she cried Like all the kids who lost lost.
Speaker 1:They cried. Oh yeah, they have a passion for the game.
Speaker 3:This one kid hadn't played in a month. He was crying his eyes out and I'm like, dude, we got to get you the very next game. I don't care, you got to be on the field. Eddie ended up coming to help me coach in BYU, and that's where I lose right. It was a playoff game, actually and we lost the game B-Y-F-L-N. And that's why I lose right. He lost to John Meechie. It was a playoff game, actually and we lost the game this way, conley.
Speaker 2:Cheap, but I blame you. Come on, I did a resume bro. Eddie.
Speaker 3:Eddie, we love you. You're a great Jets alumni. You know me bro.
Speaker 2:I'm for Brian, I'm for the Bombers.
Speaker 3:You're one of the best Titans ever played for the Jets.
Speaker 2:You're the best movie we have X-Walk. We don't have a Nintendo Wii, that's for the record. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm glad this was a better Titan for the Jets than you or Travis. That's a different conversation. You're not going to Because you are too.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 3:The thing is, I've asked both of them and neither would answer.
Speaker 1:Both say but I mean Travis said Eddie O's came second to him. I don't know what that means. That's what I heard.
Speaker 2:I heard Eddie O's is the better tight end of them, but I didn't hear that. Yeah, but I mean.
Speaker 1:So I mean, I know, I can say this much.
Speaker 2:I mean country right now, and I do what I do with that model baby. Now that's what I gotta believe. I'm telling whatever. Okay that, but a minute, you gotta show them something. I got your money but they'd be watching you spend another that's okay.
Speaker 1:How much money that she walk around there feeding and you?
Speaker 2:know, yeah, but you work enough here. That's what I said. It's true, they don't flash money. I agree, that's what I said. That's what I said.
Speaker 1:The ones like see what we look at. We look at the ones who didn't have to work hard for it, if that makes sense, so like the dudes who just had to go out there and play sports. When I say work hard, I don't mean anything Like build a Build a financial empire.
Speaker 3:right, you know you. Just, I don't see Jay-Z flashing a lot of gold because he had to build that all the way up. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:But the NBA stars and all those, these are those, yeah, the millionaires.
Speaker 2:But watch how they flash because where?
Speaker 1:they came from right. You're playing a sport to do that. Then, after the NBA, Ox and me, all the money go. Dennis Rodman, like I'll never forget, like I always say, it's my, my first client. You know, when I got to work like I mean sitting on the ground outside smoking a cigarette, bare feet, leg crossed, chilling, and I go on the side setting up this meeting, get all kinds of sparkling water and all kinds of stuff, and they came in there like, oh, we don't need this, give me some water on the top.
Speaker 2:You better not pop all this.
Speaker 1:But as I understand, like I mean at the end of the day they were careful with stuff because, at the end of the day, where they you know those stuff, don't know.
Speaker 3:Bill Gates looks like he shopped at Walmart right yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? He's wearing sweats, he's all wearing. He's shopping at this store.
Speaker 3:You've got a good question. You guys, what is your favorite memory playing for the Jets? When you go knockout?
Speaker 1:How do you try to play which time playing for the Jets? I knew I'd knock out.
Speaker 3:I'm joking I have like five connections.
Speaker 2:I think playing in the CFL.
Speaker 1:Looking back, I'm like I didn't have a connection to that game, believe it or? Not my favorite memory in the CFL was actually a game we lost the triple overtime against the pros. Yeah, before we won the championship.
Speaker 3:Not surprised, because I thought it would be the championship. The reason why I said it?
Speaker 1:because I knew the next year it would have been a walk in the park, Not a walk in the park, but I knew the next year would have been our year, you understand, Like we triple overtime with the pros, and obviously I mean it was one tip.
Speaker 2:I gave it up forever.
Speaker 3:I gave it up forever.
Speaker 1:One tip ball cost us or whatever, but at the end of the day, like that's when I knew that all the chemistry like finally.
Speaker 3:You could hang with them yeah.
Speaker 1:Because you know like, hey, we've been losing for years, you know what I mean. And we sit out together and go out drinking Like we won again, like we would go out and get drunk and those who actually won, yeah. And then finally we to the point where, hey, we got two guys, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So next year we knew like hey, bro, like this is about to be guys. You understand what I'm saying. So next year we knew like hey, bro, like this is about BIL. You understand, no matter how much they think about that, that tripled over time. After that, I mean, I had pros came to me and told me like, oh, like, yeah, y'all about to step over that. So that was my favorite, tripled over time.
Speaker 2:My favorite memory is probably when we beat I think y'all like 80 points.
Speaker 3:Oh, the Kingdom.
Speaker 1:Warriors, kingdom Warriors. He was on the Kingdom Warriors.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I came in to try to get the team you know to come in to how to run the team.
Speaker 2:And then we and we.
Speaker 1:It was like 86-8 or something like that 86, no, anyway, anyway, that was like 86 to 8, or something like that, 86 to 6. No, 86 to 6. And then it was 84 to 0.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they stopped at five minutes and why that game was so memorable for me? Because my mother died the next day and I was in the hospital. But I say wait, let me go police. So I was cast up that game. Yeah, yeah, say wait, let me go police. So I was cast up again. I was on one, so that's why that gave me another look at the pictures. Curtis Curtis's son was in it too. S&p Curtis Junior CJ.
Speaker 1:But he was in a picture with us.
Speaker 2:The Vikings jersey and I just that was during our run. That was my greatest memory. I just that was during our run. That was my greatest memory. I shared that the other day because seeing all the old Jets come in, all the old Jets came again. We just was like this is crazy. That was one of my best memories yeah, what would you?
Speaker 1:I'm cushing? I don't remember that. I don't, I don. I don't remember that they say Jets against.
Speaker 3:MCD. I don't know if I won. One of them is the championship game. I came back to Jets and won the championship against the pros. And who was number 55? What's his name? The linebacker Alex.
Speaker 1:Alex, he was our Jameis Winston.
Speaker 3:That was our guy and he got fired for a late hit on Foster.
Speaker 1:And he turned to the referee.
Speaker 3:That was the first time I saw Foster and he was like okay, okay, okay, I got you Okay and lined up and Foster threw the ball and it was one, two, three steps, boom and our Foster to the ground, which was just blatantly late A six-year-old of mine.
Speaker 1:That's about it.
Speaker 3:And Alex turns to the ref and goes throw your flag now. And that's what I'm going to, because it was like just haven't been cheated by Foster for so many years.
Speaker 2:I was thinking about it, I was like Maybe he's in the mecca of getting ahead, but he's sitting in. I was like maybe it was in the Mac of Gatling Head, billy Siff and the pros. Remember I played D-line and I must have touched Foster like this way the next play, foster, make one call Charlie the Grand Pope. All of them like dive on me. I was, they got the boy Triedini, but I was like this play here.
Speaker 1:But that's the good part about Tapa too, I mean, you can always get get back, get back all the stuff that wasn't called like you knew.
Speaker 3:You know you knew how to. You know you knew how to get somebody. Remember Petey. He had a call where he was playing DB on and the receiver grabbed as in Metro's, playing DB, so you know how horrible this is the receiver grabbed his helmet and turned his head to the side and there was no call. Ref was standing right there. There was no call.
Speaker 2:You know that's a big deal because that's like serious. That's why Mike stopped playing.
Speaker 3:And it was fourth down and it happened, so you, know they punted.
Speaker 1:We got the ball back.
Speaker 3:And Petey refused to leave the field, so he's in the huddle on offense and I'm like so what's going on? I think.
Speaker 1:Pitty was the first time I ever saw a real concussion. And I say real concussion, like you can actually see that this person had a concussion. I mean shaking over the years. A lot of times players have a question with you. You know you're in a shot, you know what I'm saying I didn't know, I know him. Yeah, that's when he was losing.
Speaker 2:He was going to all the teams Anyway. But, peter, it's been a pleasure to be on the show now, but before we go, man, we just want to. Just want to talk about understand. It was at the Super Bowl, and again two years ago this year in Vegas, not Vegas at Levi's Stadium. Yeah, last year you was able to go, this year I was able to go. I think it's only right we both go next year.
Speaker 1:San Francisco right.
Speaker 2:You know, no, man big guy and then also my shout out to Griff. Griff was Griff mentor George and he won the bro Griff Dems, big man, good job bro yeah squad. I think he won squad and he won the bench. He sent me some videos we can share to the Instagram and TikTok bro that was crazy.
Speaker 1:I saw it, I think I was there. I was like bro, congrats, man, congrats.
Speaker 2:I think I was there on his eyes, you're like whoa, yeah, congrats, man, congrats. He's a good dude. He's a good dude, good dude and also man. We want to shout out St John's Join your boys and see your boys within the BISS championship, congratulations gents, and you got anything else to say.
Speaker 3:Well, the CFL comes back. So for all you, powers that be who could do something about it, it's time to bring back a great Bahamian institution. A lot of Bahamians are able to go away and get degrees off of tackle football and come back and build houses and lives. So it's not just about you. It's about holding other people back, holding Bahamians back to a better life.
Speaker 1:You know, the funny thing is I mean before I close out the CAFL is still around by the same people and we haven't played it from 2018. That's crazy, bro when are elections?
Speaker 3:when are CAFL elections? Anyone know what those are? How could you have elections?
Speaker 1:it's still around right, so you have to have elections. Keep in mind, don't CAFL elections. How could you have elections? It's still around right, so you have to have elections. Keep in mind now the CAFL board is a governing body for any football in the Bahamas. It is insane.
Speaker 3:You know. So I mean, it's such a like it could be, luckily for us. You know, guys like Colmer and Matrix yourself who love you still, guys like Colmer and Matrix yourself who love you, still complain on semi-contact, but it's not the same thing. You know, flag is wonderful, I love it, but it's just not the same thing. And you say, well, you know, just bring it back.
Speaker 1:You know, let's get it like how it is in Orlando. You know what I mean. Let's go a little more contact, yeah man. Yeah, not everything. Go a little more contact, yeah man before I get too old.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not everything's a flag, you know, let him play, it's all basketball, you know before we go.
Speaker 2:I just realized we didn't mention Mr LT Alligator Arms. So shout out to LT again. Shout out to the producer, 88 season also. Man, y'all can hit us up at understandapodcast Podcast at Yaocom. You can hit us up on TikTok or Instagram at Understander Podcast, yeah, and you know the YouTube channel because you know I was about Matrix 242, 82.
Speaker 1:No, why?
Speaker 3:is it? Why is it 82? Why are you wearing 82? Why are you?
Speaker 1:wearing 82? I mean so.
Speaker 2:And we're gone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, my, my my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my my, my.