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UC - Kendall W. Thompson: Fresh Leadership & Visionary Strategies for a Thriving League
Kendall W. Thompson, the newly appointed commissioner of the BFFL, shares his transformative vision for football in the Bahamas, emphasizing the importance of community engagement and rebuilding trust within the league. He discusses strategies for enhancing officiating quality, the significance of accountability among players, and the role of leadership in ensuring the league's growth and sustainability.
• New commissioner Kendall Thompson's background and his approach to football
• Importance of community engagement in fostering local support
• Strategies for rebuilding trust in officiating
• Addressing challenges in securing sponsorships through community involvement
• Mentorship from current players to inspire the next generation
• The collective effort needed for the league's success and growth
Welcome to Under Center. We are your hosts. I'm Matrix. This is.
Speaker 2:The Franchise.
Speaker 3:Franchisee. Introduce the guest. Bro, what's going?
Speaker 2:on, I gotta let people realize that the Franchise is still here. People.
Speaker 1:Trying to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 2:I don't know who this boy is. Boy, this is the new commissioner people. Congrats again, my brother. Thank you very much, man. This is Kendall the new commissioner.
Speaker 3:congrats again, my brother thank you very much, man. Thank you for having us.
Speaker 2:This is Kendall, the new commissioner. Kendall W Thompson I can't wait you, the Thompson too.
Speaker 3:Oh, he's Thompson, oh wow look at me on light skin like Travis what I don't stop there, what you all trying to put me, but yeah, man, how you doing he's one of the slaves who took Travis name you mean he take my name.
Speaker 1:How's it been so far, man? I mean, it's only been what about a week, two weeks, but how's it been so far?
Speaker 3:I mean to be honest. So far, so good um for me. When I heard that um, actually um president reached out to me say hey man, um, I'm gonna. There's an opening for commissioner. I think you'll be a suitable person for it. They say listen, bro, to be honest with you, can I be honest in this space?
Speaker 3:Yes, man, that's why you're here I say listen, bro, there's a reason I'm away from football. You know I say listen, no man, things are going to be a little different. You know I bring a different word, so I say, okay, then I'll be on it. You know, for me, when it comes down to the game of football, you know it's more. Nobody's bigger than the institution for one. That's my mindset, and eventually we all age. I remember when I was still playing at 20. Now I'm a little older than that, but I go to show you the institution is still around. So that's my mindset. So nobody's bigger than the institution. So that's my focus right there. So, other than that man, I've just been busy reaching out to one or two persons here and there, trying to get one or two things in motion, get a feel for what it is, and also let them get a feel for who I am in reference of and I want to applaud you too.
Speaker 2:I don't applaud tito and his, his team, his executive team a fresh face who knows the game, like you ain't have no legions or no team, you ain't. You ain't no boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife and no player, and that's that's what we need, man. There's a fresh face who know the game, as opposed to soccer players who, trying to do american football, you're still taking shots, bro, shots, shots. Oh man yeah yeah, um.
Speaker 1:So I mean, you know, now that we got that out of the way, I mean can you give I'll say give a brief introduction of yourself, um, about sports, and to the bffl and all of the our listeners out there, you know, tell them who you are and a little background on your sports career, Awesome, awesome.
Speaker 3:So for me, sports started as just a way for me to be in the streets. You know, I was saying when I see young kids up and down riding bike and I know it's past that time and they're out there, I say yeah, that's a roadie. And for me I was a roadie, you know. And if it wasn't a crate on the lamp pole or it wasn't, a Basketball. Yeah, playing basketball or parking or anything of that sort, or whatever batting ball and things, parking that was the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So if we brought people to say parky, that was the time. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So if we brought people to say Porky, they mean it in Porky Pig, they mean it in Porky.
Speaker 3:So for me sports started relatively early, just exploring what is what? Can I get into this? Just get me out of the house, you know, and thank God I was fortunate enough to have my parents. They know what I was doing out there playing.
Speaker 3:So it started for me early I did a little boxing with um the late boston blackie miller, you know, for a while after I got hit I said this ain't for me. So I say you know what, I timed the segue into something else, out of the stand, doing track and field, something of which I took all the way up to college. And what was so funny is that, um, that was a skill that I had acquired in high school, didn't do anything in in track in a while and that skill took me out of college. Meaning that, you know, after it was done with football, you know, the coach was like, hey, you want to play, you want to, you want to do, you want to do track. I say, yeah and shit, I was able to ride that straight through. Get some free money.
Speaker 2:And you know, just graduate, get your degree, but that's the ultimate goal. Everybody goalie in the NFL For me that is where sports started.
Speaker 3:I was always around football because I grew up in the area of Windsor Park so I grew up watching. You know dudes play on Windsor Park and watch this. This could blow your guys' mind. I remember watching Rocket play dude.
Speaker 1:That's who you look at watching Blade.
Speaker 3:So that's, it.
Speaker 1:So no, no, sorry, I remember being a young.
Speaker 3:I remember being a young jit watching Rocket Blade. You know a bad guy. I was like damn and he was listen, no, drop off the same person. He is now times a hundred, then, yeah, rocket can take a head bite.
Speaker 1:I mean boy, I played with him like what in tackle, I played with him on the sunburners and then I played with him, I think, with Jets for about two, three years, Like yeah, yeah, and like I always tell people I mean, you haven't thought about this for as much, and for how passionate he is about the game, I've never seen rocker getting any problems on the football field. You ever thought about that?
Speaker 3:he gets a little loud, but yeah. But I mean like yeah, say well, you know he's very disciplined, yeah, he's very that's. That's that's football. Yeah, he's gonna play within the line yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know, identity, you know he plays with that um the anger, that, what they call it passion, you know what I I mean. So a lot of people play better when they're that way, and he's one of them. It works for him Still working, actually.
Speaker 3:Well, there's a saying for running backs especially. You say you have running backs that run angry.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 3:That's the way they tell it in passion.
Speaker 2:That's the O-line mentality. But if you play an O-line you ain't mod something wrong, yeah, yeah. So that's why it's really irritating when I go against D-line, when they don't talk back. I was being rude and disrespectful but they would just look at me and smile like because I play better when you modded me and you cheap shot me okay and that's why I know he's like defending there, like he put a smoke piece in and you talking him bad, you're doing all kinds of things like.
Speaker 1:That's why I know he's like defending there, like he put his mouthpiece in and you're talking to him. You're doing all kinds of things. That's it. He don't say nothing.
Speaker 3:That's like the Jerry Rice approach.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like he ain't saying nothing at all, like I mean, okay, he catch a ball, he has to walk him back to LA and celebrate. Like, bro, like, do something. You know what I mean. Like you know um. So, um, our next question you know, how do you plan on bringing back a sense of stability and trust back to the office that you hold me in, the commissioner's office, because I don't know if you heard the past story, but, um, you know, I mean that's a great great question great question.
Speaker 3:I'm glad I'm here to answer it. Um, first things first a little bit about me. When it comes down to that, like I really don't get caught up on the hearsay and so forth. Um, I, I believe that in reference to stability with this league, you know, I mean my, my predecessors have done a great job establishing, you know, football in the country again, even though it's not contact.
Speaker 2:But football in itself. Yes, yes, yes, we'll take it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, we'll take that, We'll take it. But apart from that, you know, when it comes down to stability I was just having this conversation with President De Day, as well as Rad, as well as Mr Knowles, their head referee I was like, listen, guys, one thing that I personally am a big, that I'm bullish on, is organizations such as this, and I've been a part of a few of them. We have to find a way to give back Meaning that we have to find a way to you play for who you play for, you play for this team. Let's come together, let's put our differences aside and let's see if we can get in the community.
Speaker 3:You know, these cities is a community centric game. We're trying to get different, various, different audiences and persons of that sort. So our goal right now, from the commissioner's office I've started to have the conversation with the president, like I mentioned before is to start becoming more, I guess, involving communities, giving back corporate social responsibility, because it only makes sense. You know, at the beginning of seasons, we ask organizations hey, would you like to sponsor us? This is what we're doing. One like me, I tend to ask the questions okay, um, I don't mind sponsoring you, but what? What is your giving looking like so so which is a big thing.
Speaker 3:I see a lot of organizations and even businesses as well, but this is not about them but tend to kind of neglect the given. So that my thing is if you want the next generation of of athletes to follow suit and walk in your footsteps, you know, next line, the next quarterback receiver, whatever it is, you know you have the first in part in them. So we have a lot of teams out there, whereas ladies, gents and so forth, I would like to see more conglomerate effort from each team, all in the community soup kitchens, doing whatever like. Let's get active in the community because guess what, come game, come game day, we're going to be looking for the community to support us.
Speaker 3:Yeah agreed so that's one of the things that the office of commissioner, in collaboration with the president executive team that I'm really we I really look to, put, look forward to put in place and just continue to get the word out there, man, because right now the predecessors have done their due diligence in the past. I think it's going to take a lot of creativity to take it to the next level.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, you know the thing is. You know that was one of the questions we were going to ask. You know, because I mean it's becoming real hard to get sponsors. You know, because I mean not only the fact that they look at how is it giving, but what do they get in return?
Speaker 2:The product on the field also.
Speaker 1:You can't just say well, oh yeah, we want you to sponsor us, we can go out there and win a championship, that's nothing for them.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:It's just recreational. So you know, what do they actually get in return? I mean, and it's nice to hear that you and the president came on the show and you both said the same thing, yeah, and I mean, so that's showing that we're heading in the right direction. And I mean so I applaud you guys for that. And again, I mean, I'm speaking on behalf of under center and the lines. Um, we support you guys 100% with that.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much, appreciate that and, to be honest, we still gonna hold you accountable. Tito, we know El Presidente, we know you. You're all upstanding guys and honest guys who we have a lot of faith and confidence in. But, like I was telling, people be the voice of the people, so if anything's slacking we can call you law on it.
Speaker 3:I mean, and I'm glad you say that that's fair, because when you hold an office you know, such as the commissioner, president or whatever executive C-suite office you hold, you know, it's incumbent upon you to know that, hey, I'm not working for myself, I'm working for the people. Can I say the NFL, the NFL's commissioner? He doesn't work for the players, he works for the what? Team owners? Yes, yes, he works for the 32 families and so forth. That's why you have NFL PL. They're responsible for the voice of the players, the players.
Speaker 3:So at the end of the day, I wouldn't ask for you to do nothing more than hold my foot or the side, write a letter, table email, whatever it is, and say, hey, listen, you mentioned you're going to do this. Why is it that it's not getting done? You know, and we could appreciate that. Now, sometimes, you know, things may get off track, we may get sidetracked, based on the schedule and what's not, but at the same time this is why we set an itinerary of things to follow and we expect to follow them, so I would appreciate that.
Speaker 3:Please do Please do and there are ways to. I'm going to pass the buck again. The ball to you. There are ways to calling persons out now. So if you're going to be calling executive persons out or commissioners out, let's try to do it in a more respective way.
Speaker 1:Oh, of course. So here's the stuff I mean at. So here's the stuff I mean at the end of the day. I mean, all of us here are professionals. Absolutely I mean at the end of the day you know, sometimes it's certain ways to deal with stuff I mean I'm going to be real with you. I mean here at Understand, a fair chance at it. Now, if we can't get your attention that way, then we can do what we have to do to get your attention.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:That's fair and, at the end of the day, if we got to cross that line, then you know. I mean, at the end of the day there's no coming back from that kind of thing. It's like time to get rid of this person past, commissioner, you know the only problem we had with him was you know I mean he wanted his way and his way.
Speaker 1:Only, you understand I'm saying we're trying to connect with with not only him, but we're trying to connect with the league. You know I mean everything you, you, you're going against and it's always. You know what he wants and how he wants it. I wouldn't say some of the stuff that that that was being done, but at the end of the day, whether it's a leave us, we hold the mic. You know, when you saying it to the few people that you have in your circle, we saying it to the world. And when I say the world, I mean the world. I mean just like what? 31 countries.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm talking about. Some of them I don't even know. I'm guessing. So after this, after this, I'm gonna be famous then shout out to them.
Speaker 2:Listeners in jerusalem and tel aviv, israel I couldn't pronounce anything like that yeah, look at the map, oh wow okay yeah, that's what it is great stuff guys I mean so?
Speaker 1:I mean you and Franchise know you from football. We know that you have a great history in football, especially in the Bahamas, from like, where we know you. Do you feel that American football has prepared you for this role and, if so, how?
Speaker 3:I won't say American football has prepared me for this role. Leadership is something that I was at a knack for, but I'm a type person where you know persons run to lead.
Speaker 3:I'm a type person you know what. Give this person a chance, give this person an opportunity and when the next man is up, let's see what he does with it. But in addition to American football, I think it has given me a much, I guess, added value to what it is I have already, you know, because I mean persons could be persons could have either played football or not played football and still operating this role efficiently. It's up to you to okay, I'm going to take on this role as commissioner or I'm going to take on this role as president or what's not. It's up to you to put yourself in that role.
Speaker 3:Do your research, talk to the players, do what you have to do to get you up to stand and up to par. You don't have to be, for example, I don't think, quote, unquote, the previous, the current commissioner of the NFL has been playing football before. You know, I think it was something. He may have been around it, but if someone said, hey, listen, this is a role for you Matrix, this is a role for you franchise. You know I've never done this role before, but you know what, by the end, by the start of this role, I'm going to know everything about this guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And just the type I'm going to be rolling and by the end of it, god's will, I'm going to be like damn, you know. So it's all about how you perceive yourself. A lot of persons are kind of lax. They choose not to get down and dirty and do work. You know that's not my character. So, to answer your question, you know American football has been a value added to my, you know, I guess my tool, whereas people be like, okay, this box, check off, he played football. He get a clear understanding, boom, boom, boom. It just gives you that added benefit. But really and truly, man, you could. The role right now should be a plug and play. You should be able to do the same thing I'm doing without having any football knowledge. But at the end of the day, I expect you, or you, whoever it is, to dive into football, get a clear, I guess concise of what it is and be the best you can be. Not everybody leads the same.
Speaker 2:Agreed. That goes back to what you were saying when you say he was a roadie and that's why he honestly loves sports, sports. I don't want to say it makes you a leader, but it, like, broadcasts the leadership traits that you can possess. Either you could be a follower or you could be a leader playing sports. You agree with that?
Speaker 3:statement 100%, and for it's a team sport. At the end of the day, like you say you prefer, you want to get on the defensive ends, or defensive tackle skin, and you want them to talk back to you. It's up to them to be, I guess, so grounded in their way of their skill level that, hey, you know what? That's not my game. I'm not going to buy into that. But I can just dominate this guy from the line and at the end of the 0-0, after the 60 minutes is over, he's going to come and shake me up. Good damn game. It's up to you as an individual. You've got to know how you fight. I can't come in the ring and be like dude. This dude is fighting like this. Let me adjust this.
Speaker 1:You haven't been working that style of fighting.
Speaker 3:That's where a lot of people go wrong. They listen to the noise, they don't put their blinders on. Dude, you've been tooling, you've been practicing for this moment. You finally get this moment. What are you going to throw it away?
Speaker 2:you can throw it away you see something?
Speaker 3:no, you know you understand a lot. We don't want. You shouldn't watch no faces that's the true truth.
Speaker 1:That's true for sure. I mean, the good part about it is I I keep hearing you talk about um, you know, being involved with the, the teams. That is key, especially as a, as a commissioner, and I mean you know, you, you say it should be a plug and play. Um, it should be a plug and play when you're actually committed to doing what you need to do and and and me personally, I feel that's um first things. First, you have to have to connect with the, the league itself. When I say the league, the team managers, the teams, the players, so you can actually see, let them guide you kind of thing. You lead, but they guide you whilst leading. So that's key. So I applaud you with that. We have a next question, governor.
Speaker 2:We know you had a hand in sandbars with President Tito right. How has you all's previous, I guess collaboration alliance, how has that helped prepared you for this role, for this upcoming season and beyond? Because I didn't say and I didn't, I I predicting it you doing 10 years as commissioner wow, yeah, that's not like a sentence that's. That's a great job. I have confidence in you five terms two, two things.
Speaker 3:First things. First. I just want to correct something you say I didn't for the record. I have no vested interest in sound wars. Okay, so if anybody's listening to me under the sound wave, I have no vested interest.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know.
Speaker 3:I'm just the type of person anyone who knows me they know they could call on me. And hey, listen, this is what I'm working on. What do you think? What's your thoughts? Help me brainstorm, help me bring this to light. So when you guys see me involved in sound wars or you see me out there, anything you know um, that's somebody calling me. That's you just support, listen, I need you, I need you, boom, I got you.
Speaker 3:And that goes right back based on what relationships yes, yes at the end of the day you'll be like hey bro, something's going on, I need you here, can you do it? Okay, let me check my schedule. I'm there because I've been in those positions before. Where I was damn this is. I'm handicapped in this area, need someone to help me. So I know what that is. So that's when I set the record straight to let people know there's no quote-unquote horse in the race. I have no ties in sign wars. You know, I'm just the type person I see your dream. I want to be a part of getting it off and I'm there to contribute 100%. I haven't taken any resources, any money, anything from that, even if it was given to me. That's not my style, because I believe that at the end of the day, the goal is. I'm a true footballer. I love the game of football, still do and if it's anything contributing to anything, whereas with football and helping young people or even as an organization around it, I'm there 100%.
Speaker 2:And second of all, your second question was I think you were saying Boy I can't remember Because you didn't show me for a little bit no, no, no man. I just want to say that. I want to say how did your relationship help, Because you all know each other from a long time. You all played together.
Speaker 3:How do you feel that that will benefit you?
Speaker 1:moving forward as a roller's commissioner. Well, you mean with president. Yeah, I mean for right now, the president know how I thinks.
Speaker 3:You know what I don't like I could tell you that I know how he thinks yes, yes, and if it's something that I don't agree with, no, I don't agree. I think we need to rethink that respectfully. You know, and like vice versa, and those moments come from being in the trenches.
Speaker 3:I'm sure that's a word you're familiar with yeah, I love the trenches In the trenches, you know 10, 15 years ago coming into the league, you know as rookies and so forth. I mean I think he would have met me two years earlier coming in and you know just gravitating, practicing together off on all those things. So that right there I know what his standard is and he kind of knows what my standard is.
Speaker 3:Okay, you know when it comes down to, for example, quote, unquote the league right here. I believe in utmost excellence and the only way to get a person, an organization, to another level is to up the excellence. That means to hold people at a high. Not. You mentioned about holding commission in the offices at a level of accountability. Now it's vice versa. Now we're going to hold the players to a level of accountability. Now it's vice versa. Now we're going to hold the players to a level of accountability, the team's administration.
Speaker 3:These are the policies and guidelines that govern the league, that govern players, and the goal and the expectancy is we expect you to walk this line. Don't jump the line and jump back in, because if you jump the line and jump back in, there's no need for you to call me or send me email. These are the guidelines for you. Hop in the line. You know that's just how I am. Straight, fair is fair. You know you can't say, okay, I stole from this shop but I return it.
Speaker 1:I can't, you know. Do it in time. You broke the law.
Speaker 3:You step over the line. That's what it is, I mean it's fair as fair, if you want to be fair about it right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, you know that before you commit the crime. Absolutely, that's what it is, you know.
Speaker 2:But from the outside, looking in, right from last season, last season season before that outside looking in, it appeared that the commissioner's office and the administration I mean the president's office they weren't on, even playing Like they wasn't even on the same planet a lot of times Like they wasn't even on the same planet. A lot of times. How do you, how do you? How could I say this? How do you plan on fixing this to make sure the commissioner's office and the president's office and his team are on one accord?
Speaker 3:Well, for right now the commissioner's office is myself. I'm trying to get two other individuals who are football knowledge and football worthy to come on board to kind of backfill for me so we could rub.
Speaker 3:I guess iron sharpens iron and the only way moving forward, gentlemen, is for for for both offices to move cohesively and operate as a unit is to actually spend time together, off the field, on the field, either. If it calls creating a group, we meet, number once a week, we go on um, we're brushing off new ideas, brushing on, brushing on old ideas, and so forth. That's the only way for an office to move forward, you know cohesively. So, at the same time, in order to get somewhere, you have to first put one foot in front of the other. You can't expect to go this way, and this office is going that way.
Speaker 2:It won't work.
Speaker 3:You know and also the fact that you guys realized and saw that you know shows you how easily you know people could be broken and disenfranchised and people could see it. So the goal is right now, from this office, to work very closely, which you know I will be doing, work very closely with the executive team and making sure that you know, like I said, the beginning of the sport, this, this, the show, is that institutions bigger than myself, so myself. So if you take me out, take you out, take whoever out, we can put new persons in it and the institution still thrives. So that's the goal of the Commissioner's Office and for at this moment, moving forward, okay okay.
Speaker 1:So with that said changes, you want to share some of the changes that you and your team for now, your office I say your office because you haven't formed your team as yet, but you and your office plan to bring this season.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm a huge proponent of structure. I believe that when there's structure in place not saying that there isn't any structure at the moment, but when there's a structure in place and you disseminate that structure to whether it's the league, the teams, the coaches, whoever that it'll be easier for persons to follow suit. It's just like giving you a blueprint to start a podcast. You know you guys can take that and give that to someone else. Be easy, you already been through the wars. So, for that being said, like right now we we have one or two things. Like I said, I was discussing with the president today. He's back and forth and quote unquote, one of the major things that I ran with. When I heard I got the news, I said okay, no problem, we need to set the record straight. Regarding the referee situation, I had a conversation with the head ref a few weeks ago and I was like listen, man, I prefer you to wear one hat, I prefer you to wear one hat. I prefer you to wear one hat. I prefer you to be focused in an area. I understand you may be the most skilled individual here in terms of refereeing the game, but at the same time, in order for the league to grow, in order for persons to take us serious, we must first exhibit the traits of growth. We must first exhibit the traits of being taken serious. So that's a big key. We've been working on that.
Speaker 3:I was president myself and I myself have been calling persons hey, listen, I know you're not in the past, listen, we're going to have these quote-unquote referee situations that you could reach up to the same people you're trying to. So that's a big thing. I heard that and I also went about and I talked to one or two persons who were also a, I guess, played in the league, and either they're playing now, played in the past and want to get involved, and that's always been an Achilles heel on this end. So for me I really liked that situation. So for one thing. Second thing, and it's something in the works Having control and making it visible in terms of clockwise, timekeeping and all that stuff, you know.
Speaker 2:And also you're probably game planning your players on the coach.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know. And then also, if I throw a flag on you, the audience player's side should know who the flag was on. Hey Holden, number 81. So far you know. I think that's something that, because people know it's a fly. You know. So these are. So when you look at the end, when you look at college or what's not, you see these things happening. So it shouldn't be no reason why we can't take those things and be simple things, you know, but yeah, sometimes people's simple things are very difficult to maintain.
Speaker 1:I agree with you, especially the rap part, the data truth. You know it goes back to what the president said. Tito said you know the leader should always train someone to take his place.
Speaker 1:Yes exactly Because, at the end of the day, man, a leader should always train someone to take his place. Exactly Because, at the end of the day, man, if you don't train anybody, what's going to happen is you're going to have to start from scratch again. Yep, then you decide that you're going to step down, or you just don't want to do it anymore, and obviously you've got to start from scratch, because that person's not going to have to do it themselves, they're going to bring it from the bottom up again. You do it themselves, they're going to bring it from the bottom up again. You know what I mean. Whereas if you were training them the whole time, you would have it.
Speaker 1:And the sad thing is the two better refs right now one is a player, one is a coach, and I mean, I mean the same team. Better than leave us as a league, not saying that they, you know, they call bias us as a league, not saying that they, you know, they, they, they are called bias. But yeah, let's be real, we're all human, you're my boss and you'll play the game. Or let's say, let's say you, you have a fight against him.
Speaker 1:When it comes down to the 50, 50 calls, you can get my call every time. You understand, that's just human nature and it's nothing against them because I mean, don't get me wrong, I think they do an awesome job of trying to separate it. But at the same time I mean, you know it's very odd. And then you know, at times, you know you might make a call that I feel like, oh hey, it's borderline. So now I'm saying, oh, you only call that because of this. The president can tell you what it is or that thing. But I bought it afterwards. The lion saved him for years because you know, we felt it was our year and he made a call that cost us, you know, a little call, yeah, a very big call.
Speaker 1:It was borderline man, but at the end of the day it was late. So because he was in that position to call it, you know, and after talking to me, you know his thing was, you know he wanted to call it and begins and then he's like, if he called it, what's going to be said, but if he don't call it, what's going to? I came late, I mean at the end of the day, either way, because you're in that position and you, you know you're the coach of a team that's going to come. Yeah, you know what I mean. So that's where the conflict comes. I mean at the end of the day. You know, maturity helps us to realize that. Hey, I mean at the end of the, it's the actual players and it's the actual coaches. And I mean it's nothing to do with the refs.
Speaker 1:Now, sometimes they can manipulate the game. You know what I mean Because you know, like the championship game, like we scored like three dimes and then on the fourth time, when we were about to score, I ran the ball in, got it in my chest, three fractured ribs and it was gushing. Now we lose the game because I can't function properly anymore as a quarterback. You know, it was a whole play because the first touchdown was a goal, you know. So it's just stuff like that I mean. But again, I mean I can be rude to you. I would say this to you and I would say this to you let's try and limit those international referees, even if they come, let's let them come in to train referees here, because it makes no sense we bring them in every year, spending thousands of dollars for them to come here and do the same thing that our refs here can do you understand what I'm saying Because I've been screwed by the international refs and the refs here.
Speaker 1:Could you understand what I'm saying? Because I mean like I've been screwed by the international refs and the refs here. So for me to say that I mean, it just shows that I mean a referee is a referee, it's all how much training you have you know.
Speaker 3:So would you say in reference to that scenario you just painted just now? Would you say that referee has a clear cut idea of how the game works? Or would you say that maybe he's used to seeing another level of flag football being played, whereas players are a little more physical than most others, or so forth?
Speaker 1:that too because I mean when we first went to, uh, the stakes to play um in orlando, um, like that year was rough for us, the first after the first game, like everyone taking ice baths and so like, yeah, like you know, it's just contact with no parts and we're not used to that here, and that's before we even started. The stiff arm and four-point stand stuff like that, you know. I mean like as a quarterback, you know. I remember rolling out a pocket and the dude like literally left me, drove me in the ground like five yards, like drove me in the ground like tackle, you know what I mean. And then he came up with the fly and the ref was like play ball. We're not used to that. You understand what I'm saying. So now, like for them to come over here, you know it's hard to adjust. Likewise, when we go over there, you know, and I'm hoping we get to the same rules they have over there, I say that.
Speaker 3:So and thinking about that now and trying to like visualize all of that, you know it goes right back to if international refs were to come, it would be great for quote unquotequote, the office of the commissioner as well as the office of the executive team to say listen, this is how we play ball here, not saying that we are quote-unquote less aggressive, physically or what's not.
Speaker 3:But we don't do this. We don't power drive whatever in the ground. If you look in a contact, that's kind of illegal now you can't drive the whatever in the ground.
Speaker 3:There's quote if you look in a contact, that's kind of illegal now you can't even do that in the league yes, you know so these conversations, a buffer would should have need to be had with those guys prior to him coming out, and I definitely agree with you, meaning that if monies are going to be spent with bringing in an international help, that money could be spent by finding bodies to. Hey, listen, we, we want to coach, we want to teach you how to become a ref, become efficient, you know, and and it's left to be said too, because finding these persons to commit their time and effort is is not so easy sometimes, but that's not a problem for the players, that's a problem for, for, I guess, executive and upper management, so, um, so that's, that's just me looking at both sides of the coin, you know, in reference to that situation right there.
Speaker 3:But, like I said, a conversation like that was supposed to always be out with new persons coming in. This is how we do business here. This is how we do things in Rome.
Speaker 1:Agreed.
Speaker 3:Regardless of you trying to all right.
Speaker 1:And I can promise you that wasn't happening. No, they wasn't taking heed to it because, at the end of the day, like you know. So let me ask you this one question and then I'll leave it like this Holding on the offensive line how do you mark the yardage? And what's the down? Is it a replay?
Speaker 3:or a loss of downs? And what's the yardage In contact football or in the flag In any football lost? The downs almost the yardage in contact football or in any football so in contact, from what I get, from what I remembered, if, if he holds me, yes, that's what, that's what, 10-15 yard penalty 10 yards.
Speaker 2:Repeat the down. Repeat the down yes.
Speaker 1:So how we got screwed over was we lost 10 yards and it was a loss of downs which in no Shout out to Leish Shout out to Leish. I heard that in never in.
Speaker 2:No peewee, no fly. It's a loss of down and then and you lose a down.
Speaker 1:That's a Like.
Speaker 3:I never heard that ever, so they just make that up then he did that's the name of the reason that up. Then he did Again and again.
Speaker 1:and what happened? No, this is the same international ref called this, and the thing was, who was the head judge at that time?
Speaker 3:Or head ref, at that time the international ref. So where was our?
Speaker 1:people. So the thing was, radley was on the sideline. He said the same thing happened to them, but obviously of them, but obviously he was a coach at the time. You know, now he's on the sideline of our game so he really can't get involved. Um, and the president was called, which should never happen during a game.
Speaker 1:No, you know, and you know, my thing was all I was saying to them was say we throw a challenge fly. You know, a challenge fly, you went with a challenge fly. You could challenge the yardage and the down. You can't challenge the play itself. That's a lot of people don't understand. So, because it was a loss of down in 10 yards, it's either or you can't, you can't give us a tool. Yeah, you understand what I'm saying. So now we throw the flag. All I'm saying hey, I told him, I say only thing I want right now to show me it in black and white. And then you win the case, I throw my challenge flag. They be around the bush, be around the bush channel. They run the game, whatever they say, and then they call the president. The president then said um, yeah, that's what it is. So now, first things first. I didn't even know if that's the president, because I don't know a voice over the phone. I spoke to over the phone so you could call anyone.
Speaker 1:You could call your wife and the wife this is the president this during the game, and this is the president of the league, like and that's like, and I'm like, hold on, I'm not asking the president. You should have a cheat sheet to say what the yardage is and all this stuff. And if you don't have that, and especially if you're not familiar, so yeah, when I, when I, when I started playing with the jets everywhere you go, it's a different route tree.
Speaker 3:So yeah or shh it varies.
Speaker 1:Anyhow, first thing I do is when I get the route tree, I buy an armband put inside there. So whenever you call it, yeah, I, I it's called a cheek sheet so the referees should have the same thing.
Speaker 1:I totally agree, especially if you're out of town, refs playing in, and that's why I said you know, um, if god marks me for something to eat, instead of feeding him, I'll teach him how to fish so he can feed himself whenever he wants to. So that's what I'm saying. If you guys decide to bring it into the international.
Speaker 2:What if I hungry now? Huh, what if I hungry now?
Speaker 1:I still can teach you how to fish, you know sometimes people tend to do.
Speaker 3:I mean I can't speak for them, but I mean I'm just generalizing it, you know, to make things look good, so people want to get other persons included in it, you know. But like I say, quote unquote, in a situation like that I prefer to have persons train home, you know, because it's better. You understand, I've been watching this guy all year. I've been watching him all year. I know he has a tendency to hold on the far down.
Speaker 1:He's in gas so he will pull a little bit, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So this is a championship game. I can't let him get away with it. I may have let him get away with it maybe once or twice. You know that's for the nature of the game. But hey, this championship, I got to call everything. I got to call at least 99% of calls. I may miss one or two, but it won't be anything crucial. If I were there, how I would have done. It is like okay, we bring in four out-of-down refs, sit them down. We have a meeting before. Let them know hey, listen, how do you play, what do you do? See, a lot of people don't want to do logistics. A lot of people don't want to put that ground and that work in.
Speaker 2:But at the end of the day, that's something you will never forget. I have one. I have one, one question now we just talking about this, right? I know the nfl for sure, the nba for sure, if they miss a call, they would come back the following day and say, yeah, we had missed. We admit that we missed this particular call on this play at this time. Do you think that's a good thing for the bFFL to come by the next day and say the referees missed this call?
Speaker 3:Well, really and truly, I think it's still a growing league. We don't even have play by play replay. Right now we're still trying to get the clock situation, the referee situation, you know, on point. So in that situation right there, nobody ever wants to admit they were wrong, nobody ever lack of better word, I don't know if kids are listening. Nobody want to say they blank up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So in that situation, it shows good faith to the players, it shows good faith to the league and even the audience.
Speaker 3:We can't forget the most important people who come to see us. Yeah, you know the audience Because you have some people out there that watch football, so understand, and when they see those things, hey, but hold on that. So in a situation like that, I think it's only fair that if a call was missed, that it was out of, documented by either myself or an assistant commissioner or or somebody else who's operating in a help role, to say, hey, listen, you know what on second quarter or so, and display there was a huge hole in the quarterback. Somebody punt. I think they missed a call. Let's speak, let's talk amongst ourselves. Reach out to your coach or whoever coach it is, say, listen, we missed a call, we do apologize, we're going to get better and I have a strong and I'm a huge prudent of, rather than running from the problem and letting it enhance and getting gigantic, address the problem. When you see you address the problem and the situation straight out of the block, it diffuses it before it even metastasizes on the major.
Speaker 3:So that is how I see that situation. No game is perfect, not even the professional, but show faith that, hey, we're working towards getting better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, until we get play-by-play. Yeah, yeah, I mean, if you look at it, I mean NBA have the worst replay ever. They just go to replay and still get it wrong. I mean the NFL is doing it too, but NBA more consistent with it. I mean, but the thing is just gain the trust of the people Because I can be real. I mean, even if you sell me a dream telling me we can get better, even if you all do it again next week, I can rely and say you know what? Man, let me call a commission man, you understand, we can have a conversation. But now, if you ignore my call and you, oh, let's play it again. Now you don't have my trust. So what's going to happen is again, remember I told you it's how you deal with situations. So if I can't get your attention here, I'm going to get it there.
Speaker 3:See, and one thing you don't want to, you don't want and very important, everybody listening to me you know you don't want to lose player confidence. Once you lose player confidence in anything spotted as you're doing, that's it, that's it players can start to dismantle their, their mental thought, away from the rules and the governing bodies of the game.
Speaker 3:So that's that one thing, right. This is is a major, major no-no. Player confidence is very important, so you want to be able to know that, hey, I'm going in to play this team. I don't want to call no team because I don't know anything about them, but we know they have a tendency of doing this. But I'm confident enough enough that you know what these calls are going to get called today.
Speaker 3:Or if anything is missed, they're going to document it and a rep is going to reach out to my coach and say listen, Matrix, call him, or whoever your head coach is. We do apologize for that call and we're going to do better Rather than pretending nothing happened and looking in the sky and throwing your hand up, Just say shut up and play.
Speaker 3:So player confidence is major in this game and the player confidence is what is going to propel the league to the next level. You won't believe that it's incumbent on you guys. You guys dictate where this league goes. They're coming to see you. They ain't coming to see commissioners and presidents, they're coming to see you guys. Put on the show. Once again, it goes right back and Once again it goes right back. And I'm going to say this it's incumbent on each and every player to make sure they're operating in the best of themselves, you know, and making sure that whoever name it is you're wearing, that's sponsoring you, you're representing that.
Speaker 2:That's the brand. The brand, yeah.
Speaker 3:There's something in college NCAA we see in NIL and we take that flight over here. You know, and for me name, image and likeness of the Bahamas Flag Football League is major because here it is. I see this guy Dude. I don't want to talk about me, but I just want to show this out there. I remember when I first started playing with the Jets a long time ago and there used to be this guy who was doing contact football with little kids.
Speaker 1:He used to drive a Dallas Cowboy van.
Speaker 3:I don't know if you guys know, I don't know bullet, bullet, bullet and when we I was balling back then doing one or two little things, I remember, I kid you not, the kids used to come and they used to watch, used to bring them the watch on the sideline. And't believe, dude, up to this day, one or two of those dude, you remember me, man? I'm like no, I don't remember you what up.
Speaker 3:What's going on? I used to watch you play. I said, really, man, you inspired me. You used to carry on like this. You used to do that. I'd be like I don't even remember this dude talking. I Skywars.
Speaker 3:You have the big logo on it, but I remember he used to bring the kids and he used to shake their hands, he used to put on the helmet and you know all that stuff. So I said to the Satyrs hey, watch it. So the players, you know, the players are the most important piece of this puzzle here. We can't have you, you know, we need you to be respectful and responsible as well, because in order to open those doors and go in those places that right now the league has yet to even go, it's gonna be y'all. We could set up meeting this and dad, bring it to this level so we can we need to draft you in front office as well, so it's going to be the players.
Speaker 3:so if I come to you, matrix, and I say, hey, listen, man, your conduct wasn't the best, but you know what you know, you know, you know what it is you do. You're responsible enough, I don't have to call you. You know what, you know what it is you do. You're responsible enough, I don't have to call you.
Speaker 3:You know what it is you do you know what I mean If I come to you and say listen, you're not supposed to be putting that little thing in your mug. You're wearing the team logo. You're so designated. Go that way. This is up to you guys, Because I've heard some people say you know what, I can't. So it's all about changing that narrative.
Speaker 1:Making it more of a family environment.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because we want to go in places that it's never been before, like I said and once again I truly applaud my predecessors for doing their endeavor best to getting it here but it's up to us to take it to the next level and we have to work together. You work the front office, front office work with you guys and go to the next level. And that goes for both male and female teams, because everybody has a role to play.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree, but I mean, is there anything else you know before we close out that you want to say to fans out there listening?
Speaker 2:I guess Fans out there listening yeah.
Speaker 1:The players, you know, I mean whoever it is. You know the team leaders, whoever.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, I just want to say this you know, this is the only football we have left in the country, and sometimes oh yeah, plenty of soccer. Not football American football, not football. But really and truly, I see this going to another level, man.
Speaker 3:I heard conversations about perhaps, maybe olympics talk and this and that, and you're 505 I don't know, I don't know how fuck it is, you know, but think about this would you give your son or your daughter, who just turned 16, your nice car to drive? Would you give them a ferrari?
Speaker 1:I mean, would you give them a?
Speaker 3:Ferrari. I mean, hold on, would you take them, would you? Would you take out a mortgage or loan to rent out a whole penthouse for them to have a 16th birthday party? And you've never had a 16th birthday party in your life and you're the adult. That's real.
Speaker 1:I mean, I agree it's a call to my insurance man, but I like to use scenarios.
Speaker 3:In order for this body to go to that level, we have to start changing the way we think, changing the way we go about business. You understand, and that's one of the things some of the old cats sparked in when I started playing football, Even though we were playing under some extreme conditions it's just a goal. You talk about Rocket early in the beginning. Yeah, If you've never seen him's just a go, go, you talk about Rocket early in the beginning.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you have never seen him. He's a guy. He goes about business. That's him, you know, at the end of the day, after hey, what's?
Speaker 1:up man Great game man Great game, you know what?
Speaker 3:I mean, hey, go ahead. We have to first transcend the way we think we go about business and how we do things and, to be honest with you, if it's not this generation, it's going to be the second generation. And keep in mind, like I told you about those kids, they're watching. They're watching you, bro. You know you QB and everybody wants to be a QB. They're watching O-Linements and D-Linements we the one we the.
Speaker 3:So I said it to say this you know, it's incumbent upon us to exhibit the utmost excellency, man it starts right now yeah. You know, it starts right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree with you on that.
Speaker 2:But before we really head out, man, we have to mention the training thing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you have that info right. Yeah, I have it up, Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Well, this is from Rodley right.
Speaker 1:No, tito, oh, it's from.
Speaker 2:Presidente, they are having a training on Thursday at 630, 830. On Thursday Thursday 630, 830. Yeah, 830. Where exactly?
Speaker 3:I think they had one last week, the TAR stadium.
Speaker 1:They had the TAR stadium, the old TAR stadium the flag was played like two years ago it was being played there this year also.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's all and then also I know Thursday as well 5.30 to 6.30 they're having a coaches clinic, coaches and a referees clinic, I think yeah, I think it's a referee.
Speaker 1:Yeah, referees clinic. Yeah think, yeah, anything is a referee. Yeah, referee is clinic. Yeah, so I mean, if you know anybody, I mean, and you guys out there listening, if you know somebody, male, female, I mean come out and you know, I could be a referee.
Speaker 3:I don't even call the female games, though yeah um, I just want to say I don't I heard I heard there were maybe conversation in the works too, having like a little player of the year award for individuals and this is, I think I don't know. I don't know, they were just brainstorming it. Like I say, I don't want to speak too soon and I don't want to put my you know, but player of the award is going to be in similarity of you know they have the big man of the year award.
Speaker 3:So rather than saying that we're really going to play off the award because you know we have female players as well. But this award is going to be, you know, in similarity of what's your brand, what you're doing on and off the field, how you carry yourself, you know, and so forth. You know, it would be great if you got a person who are interested in accolades.
Speaker 2:I'm ready to play just so I could win that way so and.
Speaker 3:And it goes way beyond just playing. What are you doing on and off the field?
Speaker 1:And not what your work make you do either. No, but yeah, and what I?
Speaker 3:love so much about this era of social media is that you could build your brand Even though you're playing for what it is, who it is you're playing for and you may—and not a person's eyes. You're a professional. Hey, listen, this is me showing up in my uniform. I ain't giving you tips or master class but showing up in your uniform.
Speaker 3:Hey, listen, I come here to serve the elders. I'm going to be here for two hours. My name is so-and-so. You know what I'm saying. So we're still trying to put play in motion of how we're going to do it. But, like I mentioned early in the beginning, we're trying to foster that culture of giving back. You know, when you give back, you give me a reason to open my, open my pocketbooks to you.
Speaker 1:You know just give it a great great so this is a chance for every individual.
Speaker 3:If that's something you're big on and going out there, that's something you're doing, been doing now or you want to get into start doing it now. If you're affiliated, don't just do it because you want the award, but it should be something in your repertoire. You know, know out of your business or you know any form of that.
Speaker 1:I mean we have to do better too, because I mean but we do give back, you know, but it's just sad that our sponsors are bad, so we give back to the bad.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, I mean in that situation. You know, it doesn't.
Speaker 1:I mean I just said jokingly, but I mean I agree, I mean. So I'll say this much we've been proxying and stapling for years. I mean we have a close relationship with the community, which is great. And you know there are, yeah, we have a very close, the one stapleton yeah, we have a very close relationship with them.
Speaker 2:I think that was last year we did a back-to-school.
Speaker 1:We do that, but again, at the end of the day, we don't put it out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we do it for the right reason.
Speaker 3:We ain't doing it for likes and stuff, yeah, which is fine, we're just great guys.
Speaker 1:But we encourage everybody else to do it, I mean that's always the way I mean again, but you have to look. I always encourage. I mean, do it from the bottom of your heart, don't just do it just to say, well, hey, I want. I always say this before closing out.
Speaker 1:I'll say this much the problem with society today is the men, and I stand on that because at the end of the day, it takes us to be in the homes, it takes us to take the kids off the streets, and I mean we just want to go about our business. We're like, oh yeah, well, that's a rude little boy running down the road, whatever, you ain't checking. Why can't you put him aside and say, hey, what's, what's really going on with you? I mean, hey, let's go on the basketball challenge of basketball games. You see, like basketball, you understand what I'm saying. Why don't you do mentoring him, talking to him now he's looking up to you, you understand what I'm saying? Instead him going around the corner, see the guy who's on the street smoking and be like, oh, you know, the dude.
Speaker 1:Give him they put this in your pocket $50, next thing you know, he in school selling drugs, whereas you could be mentoring him, telling him hey, bro, at the end of the day, this is how you can make money. Why don't you go to the supermarket while you work? Why don't you go? You understand what I'm saying. Take them out the street instead of just talking about them. You understand what I'm saying. I grew up with I always say two fathers, and I mean my own mom is living in Nassau, she's living in Lutra. My stepdaddy did an awesome job. I gave him hell. I expected him to quit a long time. Like I gave him hell. I mean like I mean to the point where, whatever it is, I do it to get on his nerve. You understand what I'm saying and I always rebel, but he never gave up and I mean I'm not perfect, but you know I'm not a couple doors up the road.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying and I'm not six feet, so at the end of the day, I mean he did an awesome job and I thank him for that. But who knows, I mean I could be even doing this. You know what I mean. You could be saying this on the podcast and someone just come across and be like you know what? That's true. Why not let me start a podcast? Why not let me go out there?
Speaker 3:and play football.
Speaker 1:You understand what I'm saying. One of the guys who on one of the rookies. I asked him how you heard about the Lions, he said he used to play for the same Lorenzo Bullitt, the Cowboys.
Speaker 3:I'm looking at him like how long ago was that Long time?
Speaker 1:The first time I ever set foot on a football field was with Lorenzo. First time Were you, yeah, 2002.
Speaker 3:He probably is one of them kids watching.
Speaker 2:I know about that Action photograph.
Speaker 1:I ain't too far behind, I leave it like that.
Speaker 2:But he grew up on the island. He grew up on the island. You're like three years behind.
Speaker 1:Two or three years with him, but I mean he got me into it. I mean, like I said, at the end of the day, I encourage everyone to give back. That's what it is.
Speaker 3:And that situation you mentioned, with you guys being strong in the stapling community. You know, listen, I challenge you, both yourself and the team, to do this. Take it a little step further, you know, in reference to dive, deeply diving into those communities, because I've been there when they have soccer doers. I've seen kids travel and walk over malabar highway to come to the play soccer, because I think that's where they play. And I challenge you guys to say you know what, let's really dive into this community. And if you start to do that, the smaller things, if you start now today is February, or 18, 19, whatever- if you start today by the middle of your season you'll be having a whole probably be busting people, kids and their families to these games.
Speaker 3:That's how it starts, because the next generation of matrixes and the column was they want. They want to come out there and watch. You keep in mind now, apart from watching football on television, people don't really kids don't really watch this in real time, so you're gonna be the closest thing they see. But in order to get that, I'm sure if you're gonna knock on those doors and go mommy, mommy, you're playing this, me and so and so, thisso, this our team. We want a little Mark's journey. Who knows, she might be having the same issue with Mark's journey. And you mentioned your stepdad. Listen, sometimes some people just need some different faces to correct these little things.
Speaker 1:Agreed agreed agreed.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you so I challenge you guys to take it a little step further. Anybody else who are possibly doing the same thing, and it may be a long process, but that's the right process. That's going to lead to better citizens, better young men in society, persons getting actively engaged, wanting to be out there, wanting to play sports, what you want to do when you grow up you want to get on the flag football team. And guess what's going to happen?
Speaker 2:Your guy's going to be born a junior out of that a junior alliance and then especially playing football too, what I could do. I could take away some of the aggression and just negative energy these people possess as well.
Speaker 3:Agreed, agreed, absolutely absolutely, but it starts with that. So I challenge you guys, think about it. You know you don't have to listen to it, but think about it. I challenge you.
Speaker 2:No man, that's a good challenge. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:That's a good challenge Because, could you imagine, could you has at least 100 young kids, girls, boys, watching you, moms, dad, and from what I like about that park, it's kind of open, so I can open up my back door, sit down these guys playing tonight. Okay, let me see this, let me see how good you know, so you guys are in a perfect spot to really you know get it going. So yeah, man, so that's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, it's a pleasure having you Are you just coming, you're trying to take over, you're trying to close over, asher, sorry.
Speaker 3:That's don't call me Haji.
Speaker 1:That's why he fired LT. You know he's fired quick.
Speaker 2:But, kendall, real talk. We really appreciate you coming through, making it known and just being letting us know what to expect, boy, Because at least you came on the show. Other people were scared to come on the show. Other people were still scared to come on the show. Oh Lord, dog, I lie.
Speaker 1:No, you ain't lying I lie.
Speaker 2:Well, boy, we got to wait. Like I say, the feet can be held to the fire. Hold it, man. Hold it and you can do the same thing. Vice versa. If you feel like we need to be doing and holding these other teams responsible, that's just the way to get them. We don't just bash, not bash. We don't just critique and criticize the league. We just critique these teams for doing much of foolishness to them, like people they can't, on buying kids at the field, like you say this this, this, the bffl, is the product that we are trying to sell yeah, yeah and there's definitely going.
Speaker 3:I know we're detailing is definitely going to be a zero dollars for that line yeah you know, and and be trying to encourage player confident but at the same time, be trying to get persons to come and dedicate their time yeah you're not getting paid to come on, you're not roughing anybody talking spit to me, but hey yeah, yeah, yeah so, like I said, guys, um anytime you get my number, give me a shout, hey, listen yeah, man, I mean, you know, vice versa.
Speaker 1:I mean if you feel that you want to get a message out to the people, I mean you know, um, also, I mean if you feel like, hey, you want to do a press conference where we go live and you know you want to have them bring the questions in, where there's TikTok, youtube, facebook, I mean we can do that also.
Speaker 2:Live press conference.
Speaker 1:I mean, you have an awesome producer.
Speaker 2:Shout out to 88 Season.
Speaker 1:I mean we need an engineer though, Because I've been watching Culver for over an hour trying to fix his mic.
Speaker 2:I want the people to see me. I will be seen, we got to get in you know what's up WD-40?.
Speaker 1:We just do it the wrong way, but I always show up in front of people. We're close enough, man.
Speaker 2:So we are gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, smell me out, man.
Speaker 3:See you guys, see you guys at the field.